Beer Vs Wine

[phenry]

No one's ever called me effeminate for drinking a glass of Welch's grape juice...


If you care about what other people are drinking, you probably don't have enough things to care about in your own life. I'd suggest getting a cat. Mine is awesome, and it doesn't judge me for what I drink.

 

[JonM]

Tell your buddy to go to a beer dinner and see what he thinks of Bum Juice after that.

First one I ever went to, the head brewer from Bell's was there talking about the beer and the food pairings. He said "It used to be that the only thing you could pair with beer was pizza." Now there are lots of options. I recently went to a beer dinner where the pairing between the food and the beer were spectacular - a creamy butternut squash soup with veal sausage paired brilliantly with cask-conditioned Hopslam, grilled octopus and shellfish chorizo paired with Goose Island Sofie, and on and on.

 

[rexbanner]

If you derive ************ from a beverage I think you've got bigger problems than us sissy male wine drinkers.

Well lack of testicles isn't one of them. I get migraines and my car has an oil leak, though.

No one's ever called me effeminate for drinking a glass of Welch's grape juice...


If you care about what other people are drinking, you probably don't have enough things to care about in your own life. I'd suggest getting a cat. Mine is awesome, and it doesn't judge me for what I drink.

Oh, you have a cat, too...

 

[Homercidal]

 

[landshark]

Ive never tasted it but people that have say it taste like the stuff you buy at the wine stores for about $9-$10 a bottle....

If this is what he is making, It's not high quality wine, guarantee the nose isn't present.

Neither are bum juice, and yet both are bum juice. I would consider Boone's Farm wine bum juice, I would also consider Ice House Lager bum juice. I would also consider Seagram's 7 in the same category.

Both can sit on both sides of the fence.

 

[Halbrust]

If you don't enjoy either then I can't really see your opinion holding a ton of weight. I think that high end home brew is just as good as commercial beer. If your saying that high end commercial wine is better than high end commercial beer, then that is a different discussion.

Would you feel the same if I said I liked both?
I enjoy beer and wine equally, so my opinion is less biased.

 

[Lumpy16]

Would you feel the same if I said I liked both?
I enjoy beer and wine equally, so my opinion is less biased.

If you don't like either than I would assume that your not a good judge of what is good about beer and what is good about wine.

 

[malweth]

Not all wine comes from grapes, either.
Sugar and Juice is essentially EdWort's Apfelwein recipe.

Personally, having made both, Wine is not only easier to make but less complex than beer. If complexity determines the winner (as if there could be one), beer wins hands down. I've only made country wines, though.

Keep in mind that there's a lot of cross over in the fermented beverages, too! Cider and mead are also both wines.

 

[ACbrewer]

I've done extract beers and juice kit wines. My experience is that beer's difficulty and time are up front and at bottling. Wine I can put a kit together in about 30 mins (so less time than the boil) BUT I'm going to have to rack and degas several times to get it to clear, so by the time I'm done, the work is about the same. Sanitation is perhaps a bit more in wine since I keep "poking" it...

I've also made Mead. But then as a Beer/Wine Geek, I'm all about drinking what I like and sharing the yummienss with you, (assuming you are in my area and I know you). If you don't like it, you don't have to drink it!

 

[Homercidal]

Well, wine just sucks. Why? Because I don't like it.

Oh, I can drink it, but there are very few varieties that I can appreciate and almost none that I would prefer over almost any beer.

This reminds me that I should sample the wine I made last fall and see if it's any better than it was in the spring. Even if I don't want to drink it, I hated to see those grapes rot on the vine!

 

[snowtires]

You guys ever try ice wine? Now that stuff is yummy. The wineries around here make it, they wait until it goes -10c to pick the grapes off the vine.

 

[Big_Cat]

Ice wine??? I may have to look for that...I live in south Florida and have never heard of it.

 

[harrymanback92]

All fermented beverages and foods have something to offer.

I'm glad that I live in Northern California. Some of the best wines in the world are in my backyard, as are some of the best beers in the world.

As far as what's harder to make: Beer. Lots more energy.

Wine on the other hand, IMO, takes finesse. The real talent comes from the growing of the grapes, the aging of the wine, the oak you choose etc etc. Fermentation is, almost, a secondary concern. Personally, I don't think most of us beer drinkers could tell you the subtle differences between two different malters c-60 malts. But two of the same type of grapes, grown in different parts of the world, by different people, have a huge difference in flavor, IME.

When you have a truly amazing wine, like the 2006 Bordeaux I had the other night, it'll change your opinion on wine.

Give me a drink, and I'll shut up.

 

[RmikeVT]

Grateful Dead or Phish?

I focus more on enjoying all the variety that is available to me and thinking about how lucky I am that Im not trying to figure out how my bowl of old oatmeal got me drunk.

 

[harrymanback92]

Tool, actually.

 

[Subsailor]

All fermented beverages and foods have something to offer.

I agree! I love fermented foods and I especially love fermented beverages. In our house we drink beer, wine, cider, mead, kefir, kombouca and we eat alot of fermented foods!

 

[snowtires]

I highly recommend CedarCreek Estate Winery in Kelowna. Go on a nice sunny, summer day, have some carpaccio on the balcony with one of their reserves. Gorgeous view of Okanagan Lake over the grapes. But yeah, it's not cheap. If it makes you feel any better Argentine, Chilean and Australian wines are cheaper here than my local Oregon wines.

Heres an interesting coincidence. I just got back from a hop growers house and bought 3lbs. He said he just sold a bunch of hops to the vintner at cedar creek winery who said he's experimenting with them. I dont know if theyre making beer or expirimenting with hops in wine either way it fits to this thread. $10 per pound and he lives just down the road from me.

 

[Big_Cat]

Sunday night i decided to learn the vine making process and made a one gallon batch..its now fermenting and once i get to tasted it i think i may like wine too but I still hold beer as my number one and love how calm the brewing process makes me feel...

 

[osagedr]

I have made a lot of higher-end wine kits (Cellar Craft Showcase, RJ Spagnols En Primeur, a few Mosti Mondiale) that were decent, but never a world-class example of the style. But I never made any wine starting from grapes. With beer you can make a world-class example of a style because you have access to the same ingredients and (more or less) the same technology as almost any brewery. You can't get the best grapes in the world, AFAIK.

Each has its place. I'm pretty well completely out of winemaking now.