beer using only cascade hops

[BOBTHEukBREWER]

I had a pint of Angel, made by the Wylam Brewery, at the weekend, it was very nice. This beer is made using only cascade hops, which are not really a bittering hop. It was medium brown in colour. I would like to try and clone it, but as a beginner I don't really know how. I would use Maris Otter crushed pale malt, I have crystal and amber malts if required, vacuum packed cascade hops, and would mash for 75 minutes at 66 degrees celsius.

Could someone please give me quantities and boiling times for a 6 english gallons brew?

Many thanks

 

[ajf]

I just checked their web site. They don't mention Angel, and without more information than "it was medium brown in colour" and that it uses only cascade hops, it's going to be rather difficult coming up with a clone.

As for hopping rates using cascades for bittering, use about 80% of the weight of EKG's, which should get you in the ball park (or cricket pitch).

-a.

 

[RICLARK]

I had a pint of Angel, made by the Wylam Brewery, at the weekend, it was very nice. This beer is made using only cascade hops, which are not really a bittering hop. It was medium brown in colour. I would like to try and clone it, but as a beginner I don't really know how. I would use Maris Otter crushed pale malt, I have crystal and amber malts if required, vacuum packed cascade hops, and would mash for 75 minutes at 66 degrees celsius.

Could someone please give me quantities and boiling times for a 6 english gallons brew?

Many thanks

I don't know if I can clone it for you, However I have an Amber/Brown Ale that I only use Cascades for. What number crystal do you have?

 

[Danek]

I've never tried (or indeed heard of) this beer, but I found a couple of things about it that might help.

"This pale copper ale is a well balanced bitter with a citrus character in the aroma and finish given by the Cascade hops."

"Wylam Angel Ale (4.3% alcohol by volume), sponsored by The Journal: this pale copper-coloured beauty was brewed to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the Angel of the North, Antony Gormley’s symbol of regional regeneration and cultural awareness now woven into the social fabric of Gateshead in particular and one of Britain’s most recognised landmarks. The beer has citrus aromas bursting from its Cascade hops, an American variety also teeming with fragrant and floral characteristics."

If it's 4.3% ABV and "well-balanced", I'd hazard a guess of maybe 20 or 25 IBUs. As it's English, I assume the malt bill is mainly Maris Otter, probably with some crystal thrown in to get "pale copper". To get the citrus, I imagine a late addition of cascade would work. I had a play on the Recipator (as I don't have BeerSmith at work), and to get 4.3% and 20 IBUs it suggested the following:

Type: All grain
Size: 6 gallons
Color: 12 HCU (~8 SRM)
Bitterness: 20 IBU
OG: 1.044 FG: 1.011
Alcohol: 4.3% v/v (3.4% w/w)
Grain: 8 lbs 8 oz Maris Otter
12 oz British crystal 50-60L
Mash: 75% efficiency
Boil: 60 minutes

Hops:
0.75 oz. Cascade (6% AA, 60 min.)
0.5 oz. Cascade (6% AA, 5 min.)

I don't know how close that'd be to the actual beer, but I'm sure it'd be a decent brew.

 

[ajf]

That recipe looks about right for 6 US gallons. You want to increase the malt and hops by about 20% for imperial gallons.
If it turns out too light in colour, you could increase the crystal (but I wouldn't go over 1 lb).
If it's still too light, try replacing an ounce or so of the crystal 55 with dark crystal (about 150L).
I'd also increase the bittering hops a bit (probably 1.5 oz taking into account the increased gallons size.
However, I like hoppy beers.

-a.

 

[Grimsawyer]

.....You want to increase the malt and hops by about 20% for imperial gallons.....

WTF is wrong with the world? It is a sad day when a gallon isn't a gallon from the other side of the pond. I get the whole metric vs 'tarded american system and not converting because people are afraid of change(I personaly would LOVE to move to the dark side). Seriously people, what has the world come to?!?! My apologies for the random rant and going off topic. I just can't imagine the level of frustration those who use the metric system must have when trying to convert crap all the time. Then to add insult to injury one of the measurements that need to be converted has the SAME NAME in their measuring system... 'Tis a sad day indeed!

 

[BOBTHEukBREWER]

Thank you friends for such helpful advice. I drank it IN THE BREWERY (are you all jealous) and indeed it was brewed at the request of the local Gateshead Council to celebrate the angel of the North = a rusty monstosity or a 100 foot high piece of art, depending on your viewpoint. I will feedback in due course how the brew turned out.

 

[ruppe]

Thanks, grimsawyer, for the rant, I'm with you 110% (is that metric?) Metric is much easier.

 

[BOBTHEukBREWER]

It was ok, only ok, a bitter twang aftertaste, I am currently rethinking my whole process.

 

[BOBTHEukBREWER]

ok a late reply but I do keep tasting comments in my book....

 

[rocketman768]

It was ok, only ok, a bitter twang aftertaste, I am currently rethinking my whole process.

What's your water profile like? I'll bet you have a lot of sulfates or something. Also, I find that "twang" can be caused by too much magnesium.

 

[mkling]

WTF is wrong with the world? It is a sad day when a gallon isn't a gallon from the other side of the pond. I get the whole metric vs 'tarded american system and not converting because people are afraid of change(I personaly would LOVE to move to the dark side). Seriously people, what has the world come to?!?! My apologies for the random rant and going off topic. I just can't imagine the level of frustration those who use the metric system must have when trying to convert crap all the time. Then to add insult to injury one of the measurements that need to be converted has the SAME NAME in their measuring system... 'Tis a sad day indeed!

The Imperial gallon isn't a metric thing. It's been around since 1824. It was originally known as the ale gallon because it was measured as 8 pints of beer, where the English pint is 20 ounces instead of 16 ounces -- which is a very good thing! Our gallon is known as the wine gallon & dates back to around the same time period in the US (early 1800's) though it's origin was back in the early 1700's as the volume of 8 pounds of wine.

Anyway, I agree it is confusing, but the Imperial gallon is very old and is in fact now illegal to officially use in the UK because it doesn't fit with the metric system.