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Decided to down grade and just go with the standard 5 gal kit from NB. Found out they do military discounts. So that was a help with the shipping cost. Just have to pick up a few more things. Pot, burner, hydrometer etc. thanks for everyone's help
 
You must live in Fayetteville and your absolutely right about grapes and hops. I've ordered a ton of equipment and ingredient kits from nb and have always been pleased with them. Doing all grain now and the crush on there grains is perfect. Good luck getting started. This hobby will change your lifestyle and take you over very fast. All in a good way.
 
Yes I live in fayettnam. there is no quality beer shop within a hour fifteen. No matter which direction you drive. no worries though
 
Bucket or carboy, best "tool" I've purchased recently was a $12 mini furniture dolly from harbor freight. No more carrying. Why didn't I think of this years ago?
 
I actually live in Bunnlevel, so the new grapes and hops off 87 is pretty close
 
I just order everything online. Nb usually has good prices and ships fast. Other than that I have built everything myself. Converted Coleman extreme cooler mlt wit stainless braid DIY wort chiller. I actually bought my original starter kit from the grapes and hops on Ramsey st. It was a brewers best deluxe kit with buckets and a better bottle. It's a good all around kit but I rarely do secondaries now. I've got a temp controlled freezer that I just leave the primary in for about three weeks(when I can keep myself from trying to rush it to the keg).
 
Do you just fill the ice chest with ice water, run the SS line through it. what kind of temp drop are you getting with that?
 
Sorry it was supposed to say stainless steel braid And a DIY wort chiller. Got in a hurry earlier. The cooler is my mlt. The wort chiller is just a standard immersion chiller made with 25' copper coiled tube. I just run garden hose water through it. I've never measured my ground water temp but my last brew was two weeks ago and I went from boiling to about 80 degrees in about twenty minutes. Then I just transfer to my fermenter and put it in my temp controlled chest freezer to drop to pitching temps. I do full boils so it seems to work pretty well. Again sorry for the confusion.
 
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