Beer =/= fat

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

Pseudo, your missing the point. Yes we break down the starches to sugars, but when does our body ferment them into alcohol?

As for HFCS, belive what you want. I won't touch that crap. Don't know about the US, but in Canada they have to list it in the ingredients. Also Pollon talks about the bodys abilty to regulate, I think you missed that part.

 

[PseudoChef]

Pseudo, your missing the point. Yes we break down the starches to sugars, but when does our body ferment them into alcohol?

As for HFCS, belive what you want. I won't touch that crap. Don't know about the US, but in Canada they have to list it in the ingredients. Also Pollon talks about the bodys abilty to regulate, I think you missed that part.

Is HFCS any worse for you than sugar? Probably not, but by avoiding it you'll avoid thousands of empty calories and perhaps even more important, cut out highly processed foods--the ones that contain the most sugar, fat and salt.

My point is simply - there's not a huge difference between HFCS and sucrose - same saccharide components. One has a bond, which the body breaks down, the other doesn't. Again, he uses bad language here. HFCS is sugar. He needs to have said Is HFCS any worse for you than sucrose. If you really want to talk about regulation, take corn sugar. There's no bond there - it's a monosaccharide. Yet no problems with that in the mainstream media?

Fermentation has nothing to do with my argument. It is starting off as starch either way. I just think it's silly for a homebrewer to not consume refined grain products when they use them in the brew process. Also, like I said, there are more kcals/gram of alcohol than carbohydrate anyway.

 

[maltMonkey]

There is nothing wrong with diet soda (unless you buy into the aspartame = instant death propaganda). I drink about 6-8 cans of it a day - it can actually help you lose weight because fluids fill you up and make you feel less hungry. I used to hate diet soda, but after overhauling my lifestyle and diet a couple years ago I acquired a taste for it, and now I can't stand the regular stuff.

BTW, you don't need exercise to lose weight. I'm not saying it doesn't help or that it's not a good thing, but 99% of losing/maintaining your weight is your diet. You can work out all day long then come home and polish off a 12 pack and large pizza -- you're still going to be fat

 

[DeathBrewer]

That's odd. EVERY SINGLE PERSON I have known who quit drinking soda has lost weight.

Funny thing is, most of these people drank diet soda to begin with.

 

[maltMonkey]

That's odd. EVERY SINGLE PERSON I have known who quit drinking soda has lost weight.

Funny thing is, most of these people drank diet soda to begin with.

They must have changed something else too then, because diet soda effectively has zero calories.

 

[cubbies]

There is nothing wrong with diet soda (unless you buy into the aspartame = instant death propaganda). I drink about 6-8 cans of it a day - it can actually help you lose weight because fluids fill you up and make you feel less hungry. I used to hate diet soda, but after overhauling my lifestyle and diet a couple years ago I acquired a taste for it, and now I can't stand the regular stuff.

BTW, you don't need exercise to lose weight. I'm not saying it doesn't help or that it's not a good thing, but 99% of losing/maintaining your weight is your diet. You can work out all day long then come home and polish off a 12 pack and large pizza -- you're still going to be fat

You can lose weight by diet alone, especially if you are overweight, but in order to live a healthy life, exercise is 100% necessary.

And for what it is worth, when I was in the best shape of my life I was drinking regularly and ate whatever I want. But I was in great shape, worked out regularly and had an awesome metabolism.

 

[DeathBrewer]

I'm skeptical. Your body does something with that artificial crap.

 

[Tonedef131]

BTW, you don't need exercise to lose weight. I'm not saying it doesn't help or that it's not a good thing, but 99% of losing/maintaining your weight is your diet. You can work out all day long then come home and polish off a 12 pack and large pizza -- you're still going to be fat

There is a lot of truth in this, but diet does not build muscle. Diet alone will allow you to lose weight, but no one cares about losing weight. Losing fat is the name of the game, and in order to get a good physique one must also include exercise.

 

[maltMonkey]

I'm skeptical. Your body does something with that artificial crap.

The diet industry is the craziest industry to navigate when seeking "the truth". People become millionaires off selling people lies. The best thing you can do is educate yourself, using well-educated individuals with no agendas or sales pitches as your sources (think nutrionists and doctors).

I won't try to convince you of anything, but I would encourage you to do some digging and ignore all the BS that is everywhere.

As a side note, I was living a VERY unhealthy lifestyle a couple years ago (never exercising, eating a lot, and drinking WAY too much) and I got pretty fat. At this time I drank a LOT of regular soda. I woke up pissed one day, traded the regular soda for diet, started counting calories, worked my @ss off and lost 60 pounds in a very short amount of time.

I'm not saying that diet soda = weight loss, but at the very least it doesn't hurt anything. It's also a great way to stay hydrated because I don't really enjoy drinking water and I probably wouldn't get enough fluids everyday if it weren't for the diet soda.

 

[maltMonkey]

There is a lot of truth in this, but diet does not build muscle. Diet alone will allow you to lose weight, but no one cares about losing weight. Losing fat is the name of the game, and in order to get a good physique one must also include exercise.

I absolutely agree -- the only point I was trying to make is that many people think 'oh, I'm getting a bit chubby - better starting working out'. Well, that's great, but if you don't alter your eating/drinking habits, it's not going to help you. If fat loss or maintenance is the goal, you MUST get your diet figured out or you will just be spinning your wheels.

 

[DeathBrewer]

I take in the same amount of food no matter what I do. If I exercised, I'd be fine. The only reason I'm fat right now is because I hurt my back and it's difficult to exercise (that and work eats up 12 hours of my sitting at this ******* desk.)

 

[maltMonkey]

I take in the same amount of food no matter what I do. If I exercised, I'd be fine. The only reason I'm fat right now is because I hurt my back and it's difficult to exercise (that and work eats up 12 hours of my sitting at this ******* desk.)

I can empathize - I have a desk job and I've &!@#$ed up my back several times in the past couple years. It's not very fun.

 

[nibiyabi]

An elementary school in Germany removed all soda from their food menu and replaced it with low alcohol (< 3% ABV) beers for nutritional reasons. This was a handful of years ago.

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

An elementary school in Germany removed all soda from their food menu and replaced it with low alcohol (< 3% ABV) beers for nutritional reasons. This was a handful of years ago.

That's one way to sedate the lil' f'ers!