Beer and guns

[BobbiLynn]

It could be his initials?

Yes, was supposed to be "WHC", his initials. Realized that before you said it. No peeking yet...

 

[boscobeans]

The pistol looks like a Ruger Old Army cap and ball revolver with adjustable sights.

Here is a link that will give you the year of manufacture:

http://www.ruger.com/service/productHistory/RE-OABP.html

It looks to be well used, but it might be worth a few bucks..

Hope that helps solve one of the many puzzles you have..LOL

bosco

ps. The above link also has a link in it that brings up the owners manual for the revolver.

 

[landshark]

If he fought in the pacific you may luck out and have some arisakas. They can be higher in value than the german mausers as they are rarer.

These are worth more than Mausers, but not by much. Worth more if they still have the Sun engraved and not ground off. 7,7 is a nice rifle and rarer than the 6,5. Took my first buck with a sporterized 7,7.

Depending on the box, as described I'm leaning towards a Trap Gun. Which if is the case, is a nice heirloom probably.

And as others have said, I'd have already picked that lock.

 

[BobbiLynn]

I'd have already picked that lock.

Why are you trying to tempt me, the keys will turn up! My granddad always said "Look, don't overlook". A man of few words, unlike me in that aspect. Or you won't be able to see the forest through the trees! Really though, I don't want to accidentally break the locks on the case. Apparently he cared about the case as well as what's inside it. I'd probably try to fix his initials before I'd take a chance on breaking the locks. Looks like pyroengraved black letters on brass, or a brass colored metal. A woodburner and some "brass" that color, I can put the "W"and the "C" back on it.

I already grow my own fruits and veggies, so learn how to care for and use these guns, more meat to go with it. We have lots of deer, wild turkeys, ducks, he was always after the ever elusive coyote. Right now, all I shoot and eat is squirrels with my little 22 caliber riflle. Because otherwise they get into the wiring and insulation. Last spring I accidentally killed a mama, usually I can tell the pregnant ones, and just had baby ones(they don't play around, they run around with a purpose and usually their hair-fur- looks a little frazzled), but I found her nest and raised 2 of the 3 babies myself, lost one. The 2 I raised come around still, come around and nearly eat acorns out of my hands. They don't realize I only raised them so I could eat them later, they are both males, the poor little female baby didn't make it but these 2 young males have plenty of females to choose from for a mate. After they mate once or twice, I'm going to eat them, or feed them to my dog.

 

[BobbiLynn]

The pistol looks like a Ruger Old Army cap and ball revolver with adjustable sights.

It looks to be well used

Thanks! Yes, all his guns look well used, that made me think they are older then they actually are. He would say "I broke 'em in for ya". Sorry to take over the conversation, I'll let you guys get back to talking about beer and guns now...

After they mate once or twice, I'm going to eat them, or feed them to my dog.

Oops, sorry, sounds really bad reading that back to myself, sorry guys.

 

[estricklin]

Let's see if I can show you guys a picture,

Not the gun from the brass and leather case, different one. At the bottom of the pic I thought for a sec those were the brass keys, but they are fake brass, not like real brass keys with perfectly rounded top piece, that's what I have my eye out for.

Ruger started making these in the 70s, if indeed it is a Ruger.

 

[whoaru99]

Thanks! Yes, all his guns look well used, that made me think they are older then they actually are.

What ever you do, DON'T try to restore them without first getting appraisals. Some thing, like old guns and old furniture, are often worth considerably more to collectors in their old, crappy looking state than if you try to "fix them" by polishing'em up all shiny like and such.

 

[Hamsterbite]

Several issues that are problematic in your case.

I think MA requires a firearms ID card for possession.
Probably a residency (time) requirement before you can get one.
Certain townships have their own restrictions
( TO BE SURE OF THE ABOVE CONTACT THE MA STATE POLICE)

Getting the handgun to MA.
Flying not a problem if you are legal to possess in MA.
Transport by car not a problem if you are legal to possess in MA.

If you cannot legally own a handgun in MA until you get a firearms ID you will have to have it sent from one FFL dealer in CA to one in MA that will hold it for you until you get the proper ID.

Good luck and check with the MA police first.

bosco

I just knew it would be something fun like that. I was born and raised in MA, but have been out in CA for the last 6 years. I've never owned a firearm in MA, so never been through their process, but I do seem to recall something about needing an FID card. From what I remember, it's even required for air rifles.
Eventually I'd like to settle in NH. Much friendlier to gun owners. (I've lived there too)

 

[Golddiggie]

I just knew it would be something fun like that. I was born and raised in MA, but have been out in CA for the last 6 years. I've never owned a firearm in MA, so never been through their process, but I do seem to recall something about needing an FID card. From what I remember, it's even required for air rifles.
Eventually I'd like to settle in NH. Much friendlier to gun owners. (I've lived there too)

Depending on where in MA you plan to live, it can either be a royal PITA to get the card/permit or pretty easy... Was easy for me, but my mother had the LEO in charge of that in the town be a d!ck to her about it. Some BS about needing a psych eval before they would even give her the FID...

 

[Hamsterbite]

Depending on where in MA you plan to live, it can either be a royal PITA to get the card/permit or pretty easy... Was easy for me, but my mother had the LEO in charge of that in the town be a d!ck to her about it. Some BS about needing a psych eval before they would even give her the FID...

Now that sounds like the MA I know.

Here's a little snippet from a GOAL doccument regarding residential license to Carry.

"Because the law does not forbid the licensing authority from asking for extra items, applicants in some towns are asked to provide any of the following items: utility bills to prove residency, birth certificate to prove citizen-ship, letters of reference, a note from a doctor, or a letter documenting the reason for the License application. "

So it seems they can probably find a way to deny you pretty easily if they decide they just don't like you. Of course this can be appealed, but it seems like the spirit of laws like this is to discourage applicants. I'm sure that many just give up after spending all the time and $200 just for the privilege of applying.
It's $100 for the application, $100 for the required 4 hr. safety course, and they may also charge you seperately for fingerprints and photographing.

There are several classes of license. The most basic only applies to pepper spray. The next level of FID card allows you to purchase and posess ammo and non high capacity shotguns and rifles, no Handguns. Class B carry allows you to purchase/own rifles shotguns and non high cap handguns. You may also transport, but must be unloaded and locked away. Class A, I imagine is probably for LEO's only. It allows high cap guns and loaded transport.

 

[Golddiggie]

Now that sounds like the MA I know.

Here's a little snippet from a GOAL doccument regarding residential license to Carry.

"Because the law does not forbid the licensing authority from asking for extra items, applicants in some towns are asked to provide any of the following items: utility bills to prove residency, birth certificate to prove citizen-ship, letters of reference, a note from a doctor, or a letter documenting the reason for the License application. "

So it seems they can probably find a way to deny you pretty easily if they decide they just don't like you. Of course this can be appealed, but it seems like the spirit of laws like this is to discourage applicants. I'm sure that many just give up after spending all the time and $200 just for the privilege of applying.
It's $100 for the application, $100 for the required 4 hr. safety course, and they may also charge you seperately for fingerprints and photographing.

There are several classes of license. The most basic only applies to pepper spray. The next level of FID card allows you to purchase and posess ammo and non high capacity shotguns and rifles, no Handguns. Class B carry allows you to purchase/own rifles shotguns and non high cap handguns. You may also transport, but must be unloaded and locked away. Class A, I imagine is probably for LEO's only. It allows high cap guns and loaded transport.

While I was still a MassHole, I had a Class A... The town I lived in wasn't that bad to get the licenses. I'm just glad I'll never need to go through all that crap again.

I'll have to check, but I believe Maine is in line with NH as far as licenses go. Not as educated as VT. With all the granola crunchers in VT, the rest of the people almost NEED to be armed at all times.

 

[krackin]

Let's see if I can show you guys a picture,

Not the gun from the brass and leather case, different one. At the bottom of the pic I thought for a sec those were the brass keys, but they are fake brass, not like real brass keys with perfectly rounded top piece, that's what I have my eye out for.

It is without question a Ruger Old Army .44 These are very accurate, reliable when properly cleaned and very strong. A stainless steel version was also made.

 

[BobbiLynn]

It is without question a Ruger Old Army .44 These are very accurate, reliable when properly cleaned and very strong. A stainless steel version was also made.

Thanks! Yep, made in 1979! One mystery down, more to go...

 

[PapsD]

You might be able to hunt deer with it. I think some states allow turkey hunting with a handgun as well.

Check your local laws first. Especially since that's a blackpowder handgun.

 

[Stevo2569]

A buddy gave me a Navy black powder .44 revolver. It was froze solid full of years worth of neglect gunk. It has ships engraved on the cylinder. I soaked, disassembled, scrubbed (like hell), oiled and reassembled it. Gonna try and get some loads/ ammo for it and take it to the range. Wondering whether I should have a gunsmith check it out first.

 

[BobbiLynn]

Check your local laws first. Especially since that's a blackpowder handgun.

Ah, we actually have a special season just for that in Florida...

 

[BobbiLynn]

I have one more question, also related to guns, I'm sitting on 350 acres and thinking about leasing space for hunters. Already checked into the legality of it and all the proper forms, even got a release form already typed up and sent to the lawyer. For $800-$1000 a year, how much space would you expect? And how many others, if any, would you expect to have to share it with? Like, you'd only have certain days. There's a good 80-100 acres heavily wooded and teeming with wildlife. I'd actually have to put a limit on what they could kill and take with them, and of course there are limits anyway, you know, the laws, but my own limits too. We plant to attract them. Granddad kinda went from hunting them to protecting them and feeding them. Got to be a softy towards the end there. Thanks for all your help.

 

[Golddiggie]

Make sure you have either enough distance, or something physical between the hunting grounds and any residences. The last thing you need is someone's house getting a bullet hole in it from a hunter you let onto your land. If there's no one within that range of where the space will be, I think you'll just need to properly mark it so that there's no confusion as to where the 'hunting area' is. Maybe map it out and get GPS coordinates and require the hunters have GPS units (accurate ones) so they do not stray.

 

[BobbiLynn]

between the hunting grounds and any residences.

We are in the middle of the national forest, so there aren't any. We'd just have to contact the state, if case they happen to want to burn their areas around us, let them know hunters will be nearby, or not let people hunt at those times.

Love the idea about GPS. Property is marked off and post-it notes everywhere.

 

[boscobeans]

A buddy gave me a Navy black powder .44 revolver. It was froze solid full of years worth of neglect gunk. It has ships engraved on the cylinder. I soaked, disassembled, scrubbed (like hell), oiled and reassembled it. Gonna try and get some loads/ ammo for it and take it to the range. Wondering whether I should have a gunsmith check it out first.

Residue from black powder shooting is corrosive. There is a good chance that the barrel, cylinders and every part that was exposed can be slightly or seriously corroded.

I would be careful shooting it because some of the tolerances may be off. For one, the gap between the cylinder and the barrel (cylinder gap) if it is corroded it may be greater than spec. and will blast a ton of flame, smoke and buring powder out the side.

Better safe than sorry.

bosco

 

[Golddiggie]

We are in the middle of the national forest, so there aren't any. We'd just have to contact the state, if case they happen to want to burn their areas around us, let them know hunters will be nearby, or not let people hunt at those times.

Love the idea about GPS. Property is marked off and post-it notes everywhere.

Yeah, because we all KNOW how well 'post-it notes' hold up [outside] in FL. I give them a day, two tops, during the 'rainy-season'... More like powder-coated plates nailed (or otherwise secured) to trees.

 

[BobbiLynn]

More like powder-coated plates nailed (or otherwise secured) to trees.

I didn't literally mean post-it notes, not those little paper yellow things! Metal signs adhered to trees, up high enough that people can not easily remove them, LOL. Post-it notes... wrong term! LOL

 

[BobbiLynn]

Post-it notes

Correct wording: You better get off our property you son of a bitch or you will die!

 

[Golddiggie]

Correct wording: You better get off our property you son of a bitch or you will die!

Nahhh... "If you can read this you have five second to leave before the large bullet rips through your chest"

 

[boscobeans]

I have one more question, also related to guns, I'm sitting on 350 acres and thinking about leasing space for hunters. Already checked into the legality of it and all the proper forms, even got a release form already typed up and sent to the lawyer. For $800-$1000 a year, how much space would you expect? And how many others, if any, would you expect to have to share it with? Like, you'd only have certain days. There's a good 80-100 acres heavily wooded and teeming with wildlife. I'd actually have to put a limit on what they could kill and take with them, and of course there are limits anyway, you know, the laws, but my own limits too. We plant to attract them. Granddad kinda went from hunting them to protecting them and feeding them. Got to be a softy towards the end there. Thanks for all your help.

I lived on 350-400 acres of truly isolated forest back a few years ago and would let only small groups of about 5 on at a time.

The land was very heavily wooded so stalking or driving was not done. It was more like find a spot along a creek or overgrown logging road and sit it out. All hunters knew where the others were and knew the rules of hunting.

This was rifle country so I kept the number of hunters lower than if it was in a shotgun only area. Still the more you have and the dumber they are (which is hard to tell if dealing with strangers) the more problems you are exposing yourself to.

bosco

 

[BobbiLynn]

"If you can read this you have five second to leave before the large bullet rips through your chest"

Yeah, that's what I meant by "post-it note".

Thanks Bosco, yeah, I see what you are saying, would have to really get to know them first.

 

[Golddiggie]

Yeah, that's what I meant by "post-it note".

Thanks Bosco, yeah, I see what you are saying, would have to really get to know them first.

You might need to dumb it down a bit for the average hunter in FL though. Not saying that they all are dumber than a bag of hammers, just enough of them.

 

[BobbiLynn]

You might need to dumb it down a bit for the average hunter in FL though

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Or weed out the dummies, several guys have asked about leasing the land for hunting, but only one guy and his 2 sons that so far I'd trust. They want to know how much, willing to pay about a grand a year and want to know what they will get for that.

 

[lex990]

Thought I would show one of my prides that I built. Ruger 10/22. Only thing stock is receiver skin

 

[BobbiLynn]

Thought I would show one of my prides that I built. Ruger 10/22. Only thing stock is receiver skin

Sleek and interesting looking gun. Impressed you built it.