American Pale Ale Bee Cave Brewery Haus Pale Ale

[lorvan]

Unfortunately my LHBS only has dark crystal malt in stock. Can I sub that for the 10L, and just use a very small amount, or would I be better off using more Vienna, or even Munich instead? I hate changing the recipe, especially the first time around, but hopefully there's something I can do. Any advice from more experienced brewers?

 

[wyobrewer1]

I don't think the crystal will make a huge difference, but you could cut it back some if you are worried. It has a pretty prominent Vienna flavor to begin with. I don't think I would add any more.


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[shadows69]

Try 1 Oz of crystal 60. That should be in the ball park.

 

[olotti]

In my first two batches this being one of them I took 6.5 Gal to pre boil and in both the first and second recipes I made I boiled off to much. My 3rd recipe I took 7 Gal to the pre boil and ended up closer to 5.5 post boil. My question is if I take 7 Gal to pre boil vs 6.5 Gal is this going to change any of the final numbers as long as I end up with 5.5 Gal or close to it in the end to ferment with.

 

[wyobrewer1]

In my first two batches this being one of them I took 6.5 Gal to pre boil and in both the first and second recipes I made I boiled off to much. My 3rd recipe I took 7 Gal to the pre boil and ended up closer to 5.5 post boil. My question is if I take 7 Gal to pre boil vs 6.5 Gal is this going to change any of the final numbers as long as I end up with 5.5 Gal or close to it in the end to ferment with.

Depends on your efficiency. What were you getting for an OG on those batches? If nothing changes in your methods then adding more water (starting at 5.5 gal) would give you a lower OG.


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[olotti]

Depends on your efficiency. What were you getting for an OG on those batches? If nothing changes in your methods then adding more water (starting at 5.5 gal) would give you a lower OG.


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Well the first came in at 4.5 Gal,wanted 5.5, and the OG was 4 points high. The second batch came in at 5Gal, wanted 5.5 Gal but the number were spot on. The 3rd where I used 7Gal pre boil came in just under 5.5 Gal, my target, and the OG was one point low.

 

[lorvan]

I don't think the crystal will make a huge difference, but you could cut it back some if you are worried. It has a pretty prominent Vienna flavor to begin with. I don't think I would add any more.


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ok, I think I'll either skip it or put hardly in. Just got back from the LHBS, and he said their dark crystal is about 135L... so that's a whole different grain altogether. I'll run it through beersmith to be sure - maybe it'll end up being a teaspoon that I add haha!

Thanks for the replies.

 

[pumpkinman2012]

This is a crowd pleaser! My buddies now ask for it by name...lol..."do you have any more of the Haus Ale", going to brew another batch tomorrow!

 

[shelly_belly]

Unfortunately my LHBS only has dark crystal malt in stock. Can I sub that for the 10L, and just use a very small amount, or would I be better off using more Vienna, or even Munich instead? I hate changing the recipe, especially the first time around, but hopefully there's something I can do. Any advice from more experienced brewers?

I would use carapils instead if they have that.

 

[RockfordWhite]

Brewing this up this weekend... Doing a bit bittering hops to increase the IBUs (personal taste), and a higher lovibond crystal due to my system output and LHBS availability

 

[lorvan]

I would use carapils instead if they have that.

And of course they don't....


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[Quaffman]

Brewing this up right now. Using Centennial the last 10 minutes and a 20 minute whirlpool with citra. Should be good.

 

[olotti]

Has anybody tried adding a little wheat to the grain bill?? I was thinking of throwing some in to give it a little creamier mouthfeel, Thinking maybe
.5 lb addition to the original grain bill.

 

[corcis]

Tagging another post onto this - I brewed it up, using the extract malt bill (usually go all-grain, but wanted this busted out) and this hopping schedule:
1oz Cascade @60min
0.5oz Chinook@30min
0.5oz Chinook@5min
0.5oz Cascade@5min

I am utterly floored by how freaking delicious this is. Edwort, you've done right by me. It's everliving delicious.

 

[DaNewf]

Brewed this last night. Had a few issues:

Mashed a little warm. I mash BIAB style and last night I was experimenting with keeping the mash warm in my oven. Next time I'll just wrap the pot in blankets.

Over sparged a little and when the boil was done my final volume was just a shade under six gallons.

According to my hydrometer my OG was 1.055.

I'm sure the beer will still be good (hopefully) but it's not going to be a true representation of the recipe. Regardless of outcome I will try to remember to post my results (in about 7 weeks).

 

[BigTuna]

I brew a modified version of this recipe. I submitted it to a local home-brew fest and received a 37 and 38. Thanks to Edwort for laying the foundation for this very tasty and hoppy Pale Ale.

 

[Jes2xu]

I brewed the original recipe and totally screwed up. I mashed so high im surprised it fermented at all! In the end it finished at 1029. Even with that in consideration it's almost drinkable haha!

I can tell it would have been great! So thanks a bunch, the next batch is fermenting now. Can't wait till it's done!


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[bacgabe]

Fairly new brewer here, just brewed this as my third batch. My first two were simple extract brews, but decided to go with a partial mash. In addition to 6lbs of ultralight lme, I mashed 2 lbs of Vienna and 1 lb of crystal 10L. Quick confession on that, I did not realize at the time (I do now) that crystal was unfermentable, and that instead of just a slight bump in original gravity by mashing the entire pound of crystal (online brewstore did not sell incremental amounts) I was essentially doubling the sweetness! But, aside from that mishap it went pretty well. Ended up with an OG of 1.056 which fermented down to 1.012 using US-05. Although only about 1.5 weeks past bottling, it already tastes really good, although perhaps just a touch sweeter than I would prefer...and almost not quite as sessionable with nearly 6% abv. I will post a pic if I can figure out how too (just joined the site).

 

[lorvan]

Bacgabe, if you're working with grains, get a scale! Totally worth the 20 bucks. You could have also just split the pound of crystal in half and said 'close enough'. But that's the beauty of homebrewing... Roll with it! I'm sure your brew will be great.


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[Jupapabear]

Probably the 5th time I've brewed this particular beer. Still awesome. I played with it before; dry hopping and adding crown reserve soaked oak. Was fantastic... but I still gi back to the original for damn good pale ale. Thanks again. If you are thinking of brewing this you are being silly. Tried and true recipe. Friends, family (especially SWMBO) loves it.

 

[rjthomas21]

Any thoughts on swapping out the Cascade hops for a fruity hops as I'm looking for a unique summer pale ale? I'm thinking Galaxy or something similar. Any reason that wouldn't work out?

 

[Quaffman]

I used citra at flameout on my last batch and enjoy it.

 

[olotti]

Any thoughts on swapping out the Cascade hops for a fruity hops as I'm looking for a unique summer pale ale? I'm thinking Galaxy or something similar. Any reason that wouldn't work out?

I had the same thoughts and turned this into what will b my house citra pale ale. I fwh Amarillo because I understand citra is not a good bittering hop and Amarillo has nice fruity notes. I then added citra at 15, 10, 5, flameoit and did a whirlpool addition just to try it out. Tried it yesterday after bottling 1 week ago and its delicious, tons of pineapple real smooth bitterness, very drinkable just what I was after.

 

[samorg42]

Watch the Nottingham. It goes way too fast, uses a lot of headspace and blows out the tube. The beer tastes like bananas. If I do this again I will make sure that the ferment happens at around 60 degrees.

 

[olotti]

Watch the Nottingham. It goes way too fast, uses a lot of headspace and blows out the tube. The beer tastes like bananas. If I do this again I will make sure that the ferment happens at around 60 degrees.

It seems notty is better at handling the lower temps. I used us-05 on this last batch

 

[jeetaman]

Hey everyone,
Fairly new to brewing and I haven't done a batch in almost a year....
I want to do a half batch of this and I was wondering if I just take the original recipe and cut everything in half. Any tips are appreciated.

 

[chalkdust41485]

Hey everyone,
Fairly new to brewing and I haven't done a batch in almost a year....
I want to do a half batch of this and I was wondering if I just take the original recipe and cut everything in half. Any tips are appreciated.

Yep. That's pretty much it.

 

[jeetaman]

So I don't have to worry about boil-off volumes? I thought because I'm working with half the amount, that I would need to add more wort to accommodate the same boil off.


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[JeepBrew]

I think you are right. Boil off is a constant.

 

[ncbrewer]

So I don't have to worry about boil-off volumes? I thought because I'm working with half the amount, that I would need to add more wort to accommodate the same boil off.

Boil-off depends on your equipment. Ideally, you would determine your boil-off rate experimentally. If you're using a smaller kettle, boil-off could be less (depends on your boil intensity also).