Bay Area Thread

[rrryanc]

I mean, if those are like 6-8 ounce pours then I guess it wouldn't be that bad. But they don't tell us that. And with 20 people per seating they'd need to do a full case per to get into that reasonable range. With the LPK and FF on both lists I'm sort of skeptical that they'd do that, which means you're splitting 3 bottles between 20 people, or 3 and change ounces per person. At actual, non-ridiculous retail, that would actually cost you $15 for the first one and $18 for the second. Those snacks have some value, I guess, but would you pay more than $15 for them? So we have something that "ought" to cost $30 going for $68, and something that "ought" to cost $33 going for $84. I think doubling a fair retailing price counts as a ripoff.

Of course, that's with the assumption that you're splitting those cases 40 ways, if they're more generous than that then it's a better deal. But given that this is Mikkellerbar/Trappist, do you really expect them to? I guess matedog can report back and let us know.

I agree with you on the the quantity of pours being related to how overpriced this ends up being.

I'm not in town that weekend, so I don't have a horse in the race. But I do think that if those were Cantillons I really wanted to try, this price would not be in the ripoff range. Even were one able to buy those beers right now, it'd still take a fair amount of effort or cash to actually procure them. They're certainly not beers that are available in a convenient retail setting.

 

[buzzword]

I agree with you on the the quantity of pours being related to how overpriced this ends up being.

I'm not in town that weekend, so I don't have a horse in the race. But I do think that if those were Cantillons I really wanted to try, this price would not be in the ripoff range. Even were one able to buy those beers right now, it'd still take a fair amount of effort or cash to actually procure them. They're certainly not beers that are available in a convenient retail setting.

I have bought literally every one of those beers from local stores within the last year.

 

[RyanG1]

Anyone try this on tap at the brewery? I dig some of Knee Deep's beers, but uncertain on this one.

 

[beerinnv]

Anyone try this on tap at the brewery? I dig some of Knee Deep's beers, but uncertain on this one.

Have not but am curious. I would assume this is in 120/Double Crooked Tree territory. 15.3%, good lawd.

 

[CharlieMurphy1]

It wasn't special. They're adding too much dextrose to their IPAs now it's cutting the hop flavor wayyyy too much. I had this side by side w/ simtra, hop shortage, & another new TIPA and they were extremely similar and all drank like water. I think I liked the hop shortage best then, but it's almost always simtra for me.

 

[CharlieMurphy1]

Have not but am curious. I would assume this is in 120/Double Crooked Tree territory. 15.3%, good lawd.

All were crushable and tasted more in the realm of ~5%. Noses were fantastic though.

 

[falc0n26001]

It wasn't special. They're adding too much dextrose to their IPAs now it's cutting the hop flavor wayyyy too much. I had this side by side w/ simtra, hop shortage, & another new TIPA and they were extremely similar and all drank like water. I think I liked the hop shortage best then, but it's almost always simtra for me.

Is the dextrose to boost the alcohol? I had this sometimes last year when it was a one-off seasonal keg release and it was pretty hot, and really similar to Simtra.

 

[beerinnv]

Dextrose will definitely provide more fermentables and in turn higher abv. It's also supposed to be responsible for a lighter bodied beer, maybe thats why a 15%+ was so quaffable

 

[drgarage1]

It wasn't special. They're adding too much dextrose to their IPAs now it's cutting the hop flavor wayyyy too much. I had this side by side w/ simtra, hop shortage, & another new TIPA and they were extremely similar and all drank like water. I think I liked the hop shortage best then, but it's almost always simtra for me.

Yeah, I've never had an IPA above 12% (and even then, only Boneyard Notorious) that wasn't so boozy or sweet as to devour all hops. I would eye this one with suspicion...

 

[CharlieMurphy1]

Yeah, I've never had an IPA above 12% (and even then, only Boneyard Notorious) that wasn't so boozy or sweet as to devour all hops. I would eye this one with suspicion...

There was a slight alcohol note in there but very clean and minor. This one is overall sweeter than their triples and the hops aren't as prominent.

Is the dextrose to boost the alcohol? I had this sometimes last year when it was a one-off seasonal keg release and it was pretty hot, and really similar to Simtra.

I may be confusing sugars. Isn't there one that's only partially fermentable or non-fermentable besides lactose (or maltodextrin)?

 

[drgarage1]

There was a slight alcohol note in the but very clean and minor. This one is overall sweeter than their triples and the hops aren't as prominent.

Yeah, that's the issue -- at some point, the alcohol is such a large component that its sweetness will just swallow the hop flavors and aroma.

 

[CharlieMurphy1]

While we're talking about IPAs, had Faction's 2 Hop (Nelson & Galaxy) last night. Straight up Marijuana. Delicious Heady Nuggs.

 

[drgarage1]

While we're talking about IPAs, had Faction's 2 Hop (Nelson & Galaxy) last night. Straight up Marijuana. Delicious Heady Nuggs.

Yeah, it's delicious. My second-favorite of that whole lineup behind only Beachwood.

 

[beerinnv]

While we're talking about IPAs, had Faction's 2 Hop (Nelson & Galaxy) last night. Straight up Marijuana. Delicious Heady Nuggs.

Cali distro only?

 

[drgarage1]

Cali distro only?

Definitely draft only, and I don't think Faction has expanded beyond the Bay Area yet.

 

[RyanG1]

While we're talking about IPAs, had Faction's 2 Hop (Nelson & Galaxy) last night. Straight up Marijuana. Delicious Heady Nuggs.

They have a killer spot, great view and walkable from the Ferry. Plus, St. George Spirits is right next door.

Good combination of dank IPAs and then some gin, absinthe, etc.

 

[johnnyramirez]

While we're talking about IPAs, had Faction's 2 Hop (Nelson & Galaxy) last night. Straight up Marijuana. Delicious Heady Nuggs.

Killed a growler myself during SFBW. Was way too easy

 

[drgarage1]

Any Nelson sightings in SF other than City Beer yet?

 

[evilhead]

^ what drgarage said

I guess eventually the ABC kegs won't kick immediately like they have been

So uh, dumb question but.. growler fills will only ever be done at ABC right, only breweries can do this?

 

[leprakhan]

While we're talking about IPAs, had Faction's 2 Hop (Nelson & Galaxy) last night. Straight up Marijuana. Delicious Heady Nuggs.

I think that's what Waldo's Special Ale consists of at Lagunitas as well. Stuff is chronic

 

[drgarage1]

I think that's what Waldo's Special Ale consists of at Lagunitas as well. Stuff is chronic

Oh, I know I'm spending Sunday afternoon at Noc Noc

 

[RyanG1]

Waldo was great two years ago, at 9% and oh so dank at Toronado! Did not get it last year, but will search it out on Easter.

 

[falc0n26001]

I may be confusing sugars. Isn't there one that's only partially fermentable or non-fermentable besides lactose (or maltodextrin)?

Dextrose is designed to make the beer more dry and attenuative and achieve a higher ABV with lighter color and body, so as far as I know it's quite fermentable.

 

[falc0n26001]

Definitely draft only, and I don't think Faction has expanded beyond the Bay Area yet.

We get lots of Faction (draft) in Sacramento, and it. is. awesome!

 

[rrryanc]

^ what drgarage said

I guess eventually the ABC kegs won't kick immediately like they have been

So uh, dumb question but.. growler fills will only ever be done at ABC right, only breweries can do this?

In CA, as the law is currently worded, it certainly appears that way. I'm not a lawyer though.

 

[jtmartino1]

Any Nelson sightings in SF other than City Beer yet?

If you're willing to head south, Harry's has one. G&G will have one Friday.

^ what drgarage said

I guess eventually the ABC kegs won't kick immediately like they have been

So uh, dumb question but.. growler fills will only ever be done at ABC right, only breweries can do this?

Yep, breweries are the only ones allowed to fill growlers in California (I asked the ABC). Now, whether or not Green Flash will fill growlers with the Alpine beer they're brewing...that's the question.

 

[jtmartino1]

Dextrose is designed to make the beer more dry and attenuative and achieve a higher ABV with lighter color and body, so as far as I know it's quite fermentable.

Maltodextrin and lactose are the two most common nonfermentable sugars. Malto is added for mouthfeel and lactose is added for sweetness.

Some ****** brewers (Lindemans) will add artificial sweeteners (acesulfame potassium) to their beers for sweetness and mouthfeel. A lot of homebrewers do it too. I'm more of an all-natural kind of guy, although I don't mind the addition of something like hop oils.

I've always wondered how brewers can get the light-bodied IPAs and DIPAs that clock in at 6%+, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's dextrose.

 

[AndresR]

Any Clown Shoes Billionaire sightings in the bay area? Pretty sure I need this in my life. Or at least though it.

Edited for the "B"

 

[drgarage1]

Any Clown Shoes Millionaire sightings in the bay area? Pretty sure I need this in my life. Or at least though it.

Millionaire or Billionaire? I definitely have seen the former at Helathy spirits.

 

[Arbitrator]

I got offered a bunch of New Glarus at Cork & Bottle last night.

I don't support those ******** practices of trading for and reselling beer illegally, but if anyone else is ISO, have at it.