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Dude!

Of course you tell me this AFTER I drove through at lunchtime.

NOT COOL.

;)

Bob
I was going to post it came in last night, but i wanted to make sure i got mine this time before i went and blabbed. :eek: My luck every poster in this thread would have showed up and i'd have been empty handed. He has more though. Go tomorrow and you'll be golden.

Nice stash! let us know how that scottish heavy turns out. The Saison Brasserie is a great mix of strains.
The heavy really looks nice and globby and reminds me of English ale yeast in physical appearance. Joe told me that the Heavy is the same strain as what Brewtek was putting out and if i'm correct it's their "Classic British Ale" CL-0170. This is just a guess however. The Newark is THICK and settles REAL heavy. I'm very excited about this one. I'm thinking an old school IPA is in order.
 
I brewed a batch (not a Ballantine clone) using the Old Newark and it came out real nice and clean. I hadn't brewed the recipe before so I can't really compare it to anything else. I did get a real good hop flavor, but I am not sure how much the yeast contributed to this.The yeast does settle out real well in large clumps. When I washed some for the next batch (which is in the fermentor now) it seemed as though the yeast settled out before the trub. I got 78% attenuation on a beer with an OG of 1.045 fermented at around 68 F
 
For those that are interested, East Coast Yeast is now on Facebook. Some have reported trouble finding us while searching, so this link may help:
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/East-Coast-Yeast/168646113149281
This is the best way to see when fresh cultures are delivered to Princeton Homebrew. You can also contact Joe to see what's in the fridge: 609 252-1800 or [email protected].
You can also direct questions/feedback to [email protected].
This is really more a homebrew hobby spin off than a business right now so please bear with us as we figure out how best to get cultures in brewers' hands!
 
I picked up one of the newly delivered Newark Ale samples from Joe lat Saturday. Now I need to find something to brew. I'm thinking centennial blonde..... I am really impressed at how fast this yeast flocced in the sample bottle.
 
So, i'm formulating the Ballantine IPA recipe based on the one in BYOmag. I popped it into Beer Smith and it's not right. If you put the ingredients into the program AS WRITTEN in BYO it goes WAY over the intended 1.074 OG, 62 IBU and 14 SRM.

Can anyone throw some thought to this? I was preparing to brew this with the Old Newark strain, but i don't want to wing it too much if i'm following a recipe.
 
Old Newark Ale starter raged right along and then cleared itself pretty well over a 48 hour period (18 hours on the stir, the rest unstirred). Taste was good and I pitched into a 10g low OG (1.047) amber pale ale this evening.
 
Fineexampl,

See post #2 in this thread for a good recipe. I've made it twice and love it. Can't vouch for how close to the original having never tried it.
 
So, i'm formulating the Ballantine IPA recipe based on the one in BYOmag. I popped it into Beer Smith and it's not right. If you put the ingredients into the program AS WRITTEN in BYO it goes WAY over the intended 1.074 OG, 62 IBU and 14 SRM.

Can anyone throw some thought to this? I was preparing to brew this with the Old Newark strain, but i don't want to wing it too much if i'm following a recipe.

John (fineexampl), I sent you a PM but apparently your inbox is full. Can you PM me? I have a couple of questions for you. Cheers.
 
John (fineexampl), I sent you a PM but apparently your inbox is full. Can you PM me? I have a couple of questions for you. Cheers.

My inbox is full because i can't afford the luxury of a premium account at the moment. If you have questions about the recipe, just post it here. It might help someone out.
 
My inbox is full because i can't afford the luxury of a premium account at the moment. If you have questions about the recipe, just post it here. It might help someone out.

I was going to ask you for Al Buck's email address so that I could ask him some questions about his yeast strains that I purchased.

If all 5 of your inbox/sent items messages are not needed, you can delete them and then continue to send/receive messages. You just need to keep it under 5 total messages.
 
So, i'm formulating the Ballantine IPA recipe based on the one in BYOmag. I popped it into Beer Smith and it's not right. If you put the ingredients into the program AS WRITTEN in BYO it goes WAY over the intended 1.074 OG, 62 IBU and 14 SRM.

Did you set the total efficiency in the formula to 65%? BYO uses that rate for all their recipes unless noted. Then once you have it entered with that rate, you can use the "scale" option to adjust to your own brewhouse efficiency. Also note that it goes for six row pale malt, not two.

I just entered myself and only off slightly on OG, ABV and SRM I am always off to BYO. Here's the log:

Recipe: Ballantine IPA BYO 6/10 TYPE: All Grain
Style: American IPA
---RECIPE SPECIFICATIONS-----------------------------------------------
SRM: 8.7 SRM SRM RANGE: 6.0-15.0 SRM
IBU: 61.4 IBUs Tinseth IBU RANGE: 40.0-70.0 IBUs
OG: 1.073 SG OG RANGE: 1.056-1.075 SG
FG: 1.014 SG FG RANGE: 1.010-1.018 SG
BU:GU: 0.841 Calories: 151.6 kcal/12oz Est ABV: 7.8 %
EE%: 65.00 % Batch: 5.00 gal Boil: 7.50 gal BT: 90 Mins

---WATER CHEMISTRY ADDITIONS----------------


Total Grain Weight: 16 lbs 2.0 oz Total Hops: 4.90 oz oz.
---MASH/STEEP PROCESS------MASH PH:5.40 ------
>>>>>>>>>>-ADD WATER CHEMICALS BEFORE GRAINS!!<<<<<<<
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
11 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt (6 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 71.3 %
2 lbs 6.0 oz Maize, Flaked (Thomas Fawcett) (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 14.7 %
1 lbs 12.0 oz Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 3 10.9 %
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 4 3.1 %


Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 5.69 gal of water at 163.9 F 150.0 F 60 min

---SPARGE PROCESS---
Fly sparge with 3.99 gal water at 168.0 F

---BOIL PROCESS-----------------------------
Est Pre_Boil Gravity: 1.056 SG Est OG: 1.073 SG
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
1.90 oz Cluster [7.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 41.9 IBUs
1.00 oz Brewer's Gold [8.00 %] - Boil 25.0 min Hop 6 17.5 IBUs
1.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 7 -
1.00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] - Boil 3.0 Hop 8 2.0 IBUs
 
Brewed this last month using the BYO recipe from my last post above but at 70% efficiency. Just cracked the first bottle after two weeks for carbonation and taste test. All I can say is winner winner chicken dinner! It tastes real good! Not overly hoppy like modern IPA's, but has a nice malt/grain flavor followed by bitter finish.

Never had the original, but it does remind me of other historical IPA's I have had. Not sure if I can let it sit a few more weeks before opening the next one!
 
The original IPA was conditioned for one year in oak tanks. The regular B-Ale that is out today is 18 BU's, and dry hopped with Cascades. A very good Golden Ale. I have heard rumors that the IPA may be return.
 
It is ALIVE.....

IPA.jpg
 
I was really, really, really lucky to get to drink Ballantine Burton (brewed in the 1940's and bottled in the 1960's) in June. It was in brilliant condition for its age. Still fully carbonated, not oxidised to shyte.

I'd kill for a time machine to go back and drink Ballantine IPA in its prime.
 
OMG! I wonder if there is a chance it can be had here? I will have to check with my "pusher". I had a Ballantine India Pale Ale in like 1989 and it stood out to me as being quite a nice beer, not extreme in any way, but subtle, and flavorful
 
WHERE did you get that? Is it good? And would you pleasssssse send me some?
Someone was kind enough to share a bottle with me at the NHC in Grand Rapids. I wish I did have some more bottles as it was in amazingly good condition.
 
Look for it in the NE very soon.....more to follow. however, the beer is very solid - strong hop aroma and flavor; citrus, pine, earthy, balanced maltiness, great color. I have been worn to secrecy until later in the week. True Ballantine India Pale Ale.
 
So, I take it that this beer is available now in Milwaukee? I would love to try this, my favorite bottle opener is a Ballantine opener that is probably older than I am.
 
So how is it?

:) Didn't open one last night because I wanted to give it plenty of time in the fridge first. Haven't decided if I'm going to open one tonight, or wait share one with my homebrew club on Thursday and the other with my Dad. I'll keep you posted whenever it is that I have one.
 
It's ok.

Really

I mean it's not like we haven't been waiting a couple decades, what's a little more time?

Really, you just go ahead and take your time. We'll wait.


(Tap tap tap tap tap tap tap...)

Oh sorry. Don't mind me, that was just my foot.

HAHA!

Opened a bottle at my homebrew club meeting Thursday night. Nice IPA, not an over the top hop bomb. Hop aroma was a little floral and it has nice bitterness. I did get a small amount of wood, but had to look for it. Pretty enjoyable overall.

Compared to most IPAs from craft brewers, I don't think it's real exciting. Compare it to most any beer from one of the large volume breweries, though, and it's a very nice beer.

Not sure what pricing will look like but if it's anything close to PBR price-wise (doubt it), it will be a steal. Even at $10 for a sixer I could see picking it up, but that's a pretty crowded space.
 

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