bad taste question

[bottomofthebarrel]

Hi. been lurking, first post/

I opened a bottle of cider to check the carb level last night. (it's been 5 days since bottling. seems to be ok) but the thing was when i tatsed it, it was BADDDDD. like really bad. the kind of bad where you have to take another drink to confirm that it is in fact bad. then i had someone else taste to confirm.
The thing is when i bottled it, i poured the leftover into a glass and was drinking it and it was pretty good.
So my question is, how or what would make this happen?

Deets:
Whole foods 365 apple juice
Belgian Saison yeast
SG - 1.046
FG- 1.001
pureed cherries added at secondary
splenda added to sweeten.

Thanks

-cory-

 

[ACbrewer]

Describe "tasted bad" ... sour? tart? bitter? sweet? like grass? like fish? etc.

My personal guess would be an infection in your bottling method only because it tasted good at bottling and doesn't now, but there are probably other reasons it could be bad...

 

[bottomofthebarrel]

bad taste - kind of like Dirt mixed with that water that you find in the bottom of a garbage can.

thinking of checking another one tonight to see if its across the batch.
also, this was a combonation of new bottles and bottles that were rescued.

(the rescued bottles went in a bleach bath, a soap bath, sanitized and then washed and dried in the dishwasher.)

 

[ACbrewer]

I'm a little concerned that your rescused ones might not have rinsed clean in the dishwasher - although my concern is for the soap bath which should have at a minimum been rinsed at the sanitation point. I find that the narrow neck of a bottle makes it hard to get a good rinse - but others probably have better milage

And if there is a difference in the bottles, it could be just one is bad, or one method was bad.

From the taste description it sounds like sanitation. My guess if it is all or most of the bottles is that it it was in the filling tube (ie between bucket and bottle) I've had that problem.

 

[Yooper]

You sanitized the bottles right before bottling? When you bottled, did you sanitize the racking cane and the tubing you used? How did you bottle? It almost sounds like the cider is a bit oxidized from pouring or splashing but it could also be something else.

 

[wildman]

There is no need to use soap or bleach when cleaning bottles. I give them a good soak in sanitizer and rinse them under the sink then visually inspect them with a lamp. After thousands of bottles I've had three I've had 3 infected bottles so far and I've used plenty of really nasty moldy dirty bottles. All those chemicals could be what ruined your batch. That or poor and unsanitary methods.

 

[bottomofthebarrel]

last night i opened another bottle, this time it was not a "rescued" one. it had the same horrible taste.
then i opened a diffrent batch that was bottled the same day, a "rescued" bottle. this one tasted really good, so it wasn't a problem with the bottles, it would appear that it's just that specific batch that has the bad taste.
still kind of wondering what would make that happen, because it did taste good at bottling time.
oh well.
thanks everyone!

 

[rycov]

could just be the yeast still in suspension? five days is pretty early for bottle carbing. usually wanna go atleast two or three weeks