Apollo, Mosiac, Simcoe IPA critiques?

[beskone]

Have a bunch of these hops in the freezer I need to use. I figure the big grapefruit & dank of the Apollo will go good with the fruit from the Mosaic.

Thoughts?

[size=+2]Apollo, Mosaic, Simcoe IPA[/size]
[size=+1]21-A American IPA[/size]
Date: 5/8/16



Size: 5.5 gal
Efficiency: 80%
Attenuation: 82%
Calories: 228.1 kcal per 12.0 fl oz

Original Gravity: 1.069 (1.056 - 1.070)
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Terminal Gravity: 1.012 (1.008 - 1.014)
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Color: 7.29*SRM (6.0 - 14.0)
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Alcohol: 7.45% (5.5% - 7.5%)
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Bitterness: 72.2 (40.0 - 70.0)
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[size=+1]Ingredients:[/size]
6.5 lb (48.6%) 2-Row Brewers Malt - added during mash
6.5 lb (48.6%) Maris Otter - added during mash
6 oz (2.8%) Crystal 15 - added during mash
.5 oz (5.6%) Apollo (18.5%) - added first wort, boiled 60*m
1 oz (11.1%) Mosaic™ (12.3%) - added during boil, boiled 15*m
1 oz (11.1%) Simcoe® (12.6%) - added during boil, boiled 15*m
1 oz (11.1%) Apollo (18.5%) - steeped after boil
1 oz (11.1%) Mosaic™ (12.3%) - steeped after boil
1 oz (11.1%) Simcoe® (12.6%) - steeped after boil
1.75 oz (19.4%) Mosaic™ (12.3%) - added dry to primary fermenter
1.75 oz (19.4%) Simcoe® (12.6%) - added dry to primary fermenter

 

[IronBall]

Looks great to me! If you wanted to tweak something you could lose the crystal malt add Munich or just leave it out all together. However 6oz is a sensible amount. I also think that whirlpool hops add more bitterness than software indicates I'm working within my system to adjust my additions to get it exactly the way I like it. ( love the practice!)

Seriously it looks great! Brew on and enjoy

 

[Queequeg]

Apollo wouldn't be my first thought with Mosaic and Simcoe. You'll get quite a lot of complexity from simcoe and mosiac together alone and Apollo isn't really a mono dimensional hop either. My worry is it could get muddled with that oz in the hop stand.

If you want something to make the Simcoe and Mosaic pop, I would say use something a quite more fruity/citrusy. I know barellhosue IPA uses Simcoe, Mosaic and cascade and that's a great beer.

My inclination would be to for a touch of something like citra or galaxy or a C hop like cascade or centennial

Malt bill looks good, though you could probably drop the crystal and sub for wheat or a flaked adjunct.

 

[beskone]

Sounds sold, I'll swap out the 15m and whirlpool Apollo for Cascade and use some Warrior for the bittering charge. I have almost a pound of Cascade in the freezer so I could stand to use up some of that as well.

Apollo wouldn't be my first thought with Mosaic and Simcoe. You'll get quite a lot of complexity from simcoe and mosiac together alone and Apollo isn't really a mono dimensional hop either. My worry is it could get muddled with that oz in the hop stand.

If you want something to make the Simcoe and Mosaic pop, I would say use something a quite more fruity/citrusy. I know barellhosue IPA uses Simcoe, Mosaic and cascade and that's a great beer.

My inclination would be to for a touch of something like citra or galaxy or a C hop like cascade or centennial

Malt bill looks good, though you could probably drop the crystal and sub for wheat or a flaked adjunct.

 

[Queequeg]

Its gonna be good, its a great combo

 

[beskone]

Its gonna be good, its a great combo

Thanks I'm brewing it this weekend and using Conan, I'll report back once it's drinkable

 

[Queequeg]

Please do, i am interested in what you think

 

[beskone]

Please do, i am interested in what you think

I Will, here's the recipe I'm gonna go with:

[size=+2]Cascade, Mosaic, Simcoe IPA[/size]
[size=+1]21-A American IPA[/size]
Date: 5/8/16



Size: 5.5 gal
Efficiency: 80%
Attenuation: 82%
Calories: 228.1 kcal per 12.0 fl oz

Original Gravity: 1.069 (1.056 - 1.070)
|======================#=========|
Terminal Gravity: 1.012 (1.008 - 1.014)
|===================#============|
Color: 7.29 SRM (6.0 - 14.0)
|==========#=====================|
Alcohol: 7.45% (5.5% - 7.5%)
|=======================#========|
Bitterness: 69.3 (40.0 - 70.0)
|=======================#========|

[size=+1]Ingredients:[/size]
6.5 lb (48.6%) 2-Row Brewers Malt - added during mash
6.5 lb (48.6%) Maris Otter - added during mash
6 oz (2.8%) Crystal 15 - added during mash
13.5 g (4.8%) Warrior® (17.3%) - added first wort, boiled 60 m
.75 oz (7.5%) Mosaic™ (12.3%) - added during boil, boiled 15 m
.75 oz (7.5%) Simcoe® (12.6%) - added during boil, boiled 15 m
1 oz (10.0%) Cascade (6.6%) - added during boil, boiled 15 m
1 oz (10.0%) Mosaic™ (12.3%) - steeped after boil
1 oz (10.0%) Simcoe® (12.6%) - steeped after boil
1 oz (10.0%) Cascade (6.6%) - steeped after boil
1.25 oz (12.5%) Mosaic™ (12.3%) - added dry to primary fermenter
1.25 oz (12.5%) Simcoe® (12.6%) - added dry to primary fermenter
1.5 oz (15.0%)Cascade (6.6%) - added dry to primary fermenter

 

[Queequeg]

Looks good

 

[beskone]

Looks good

Thanks, the local homebrew shop was out of Marris Otter so I changed the grain bill to 13lbs of 2 row and I swapped the crystal for 6oz of flaked wheat.

Brewing Sunday, can't wait to see how it comes out.

 

[Queequeg]

How did this turn out in the end?

 

[beskone]

How did this turn out in the end?

It came out really really tasty. I've been experimenting with water profiles and for this IPA I dialed the sulfate down to about 180, where my last IPA was around 300.

Lot's of citrus and a bit of fruit with just a hint of pine, a nice aroma and a good mouthfeel. Fined with gelatin so it's crystal clear. The lessened sulfate I think makes the hops a little less agressive and made this a real hop forward but easy drinker that even my wife who doesn't normally like IPA's really enjoyed.

The keg is almost kicked and I think I'm gonna brew another batch straight away.

 

[Queequeg]

Sounds great. Water is my next adventure in IPA's not