Anyone get arrested for brewing or mistaken identity?

[Airborneguy]

Also, I wasn't aware that the general public has a negative perception of police, but if that's your view, ever wonder why that might be?

Because the level of proof required by the general public is usually little to none. go back to my first or second response and you'll see that I clearly acknowledge bad cops exist and should be dealt with, but simply hating every uniform "just because" isn't the intelligent way to approach that problem.

 

[Airborneguy]

And I really resent the fact if I am being mistreated by a bad cop in my state that I am not allowed to record the incident as evidence even though they are recording me. This situation makes it easy to hate cops in general if you ask me.

I wonder how many cops voted in the legislative session that passed the law forbidding you from videotaping them... Just another example of blame the cops for something that they didn't cause.

 

[Airborneguy]

from the OP's link:

Translation: AN ANONYMOUS BLOG...

"A couple of weeks ago local police and firefighters raided his place looking for evidence of an illegal drug making operation. He was not home to see them going through his things but it was very obvious that their primary focus was his beer room, where he keeps his brewing equipment."

Check out my bolding. If that is your required level of proof to make a decision, your life is certainly much easier than mine. You're that guy who always knows that the cop is heading to get coffee when he runs a red light in front of you, because it was very obvious.

 

[Qhrumphf]

I've had my share of bad experiences with cops while doing absolutely nothing wrong (been accused of stealing cars while WALKING down the street and detained for an hour while never being charged since there was nothing to charge me with, pulled over and accused of being a drug runner only to get a "warning" about my perfectly legal window tint, etc). I've had friends get much worse, attacked in their own home by someone plainclothed who never announced themselves as police and then charged with assaulting an officer when fighting back, another arrested and charged with firearms violations after legally purchasing and legally carrying a firearm in the trunk.

I find myself in a situation where I accept there are decent officers out there, and I've met a few, but in general I do not trust the police. Some corroborating evidence here would be ideal, but I find the story completely plausible. And depending on the local laws, I wonder if the landlord could legally consent to the search, and if not, wouldn't anything they found be inadmissible as evidence against the guy?

 

[hoppymonkey]

I wonder how many cops voted in the legislative session that passed the law forbidding you from videotaping them... Just another example of blame the cops for something that they didn't cause.

That law was recently overturned by the Supreme court. We can now videotape cops anytime they are on duty. I reread that blog post and it seems many here are taking it far more seriously than than the writer did.

 

[sweetcell]

You're that guy who always knows that the cop is heading to get coffee when he runs a red light in front of you, because it was very obvious.

actually, i'm not that person at all, but thanks for stereotyping me. goes a long way in backing up your opinions.

it was indeed very obvious that their primary focus was his beer room because that's the room they ransacked, removed items from, displaced carboys, etc. they didn't need to base "because it was obvious" on hunches and presuppositions.

you make a lot of good points. a few bad apples spoil the bunch but the public jumps on that one bad apple way too often. i'm with you that 99.9...% of cops are a good. this is obviously an emotional subject for you, don't let it crowd out your ability to see and accept other people's opinions.

uh, i think this is in order:

back to the topic: yes, homebrewing can be confused with drug making.

 

[unionrdr]

At least we have some better tenant/landlord laws here in Ohio. I guess some bad things happened to my inlaws years ago with the landlord. Mom inlaw was an executive secratary,& looked it up. She gave him what fore in court,then gave us a copy of the laws when I married there daughter. It's surprising how much many landlords don't know about the law.
Many seemed to think at the time that just because they're the landlord,they can show up anytime & nose around. As long as we're contractually renting & paying said rent,it's as if it were our private property. They have to give 24 hours notice before coming in,& state there business as well. Whatever repairs you make to their property can legally be subtracted from the rent with recipts given.
So here it would be illegal for him/her to just show up,walk in,& have you busted for something they don't understand. As a renter here,you have nearly the same rights as a homeowner. I loved rubbing their faces in it when they get high handed. I took care of the property,since they own it. But not completely so while I'm paying for it. You must be given due course even as a renter.

 

[Airborneguy]

actually, i'm not that person at all, but thanks for stereotyping me. goes a long way in backing up your opinions.

I used your words, that's not stereotyping. There's no substance in that BLOG post at all. I'm surprised whenever anyone takes a story presented in this manner seriously.

I check out City-Data from time to time, and in the NYC forum, the cop bashing can get pretty bad. I have no problem ignoring it there because most of the posters on that forum come across as ignorant in other threads anyway. When it comes up on this forum, it surprises me though. I read 100 threads a day where people question technical minutiae and refuse to accept nearly scientific proof, but mention the cops and the information could come from a neighbor's friend's dog sitter's blog post and it's taken as gospel. Pretty sad.

 

[jd3]

actually, i'm not that person at all, but thanks for stereotyping me. goes a long way in backing up your opinions.

it was indeed very obvious that their primary focus was his beer room because that's the room they ransacked, removed items from, displaced carboys, etc. they didn't need to base "because it was obvious" on hunches and presuppositions.

you make a lot of good points. a few bad apples spoil the bunch but the public jumps on that one bad apple way too often. i'm with you that 99.9...% of cops are a good. this is obviously an emotional subject for you, don't let it crowd out your ability to see and accept other people's opinions.

uh, i think this is in order:

back to the topic: yes, homebrewing can be confused with drug making.

They ransacked it? When?

It also happens to be the room that illegally stored LP tanks inside a god damn apartment building. Deeeedadeeee!

 

[jd3]

At least we have some better tenant/landlord laws here in Ohio. I guess some bad things happened to my inlaws years ago with the landlord. Mom inlaw was an executive secratary,& looked it up. She gave him what fore in court,then gave us a copy of the laws when I married there daughter. It's surprising how much many landlords don't know about the law.
Many seemed to think at the time that just because they're the landlord,they can show up anytime & nose around. As long as we're contractually renting & paying said rent,it's as if it were our private property. They have to give 24 hours notice before coming in,& state there business as well. Whatever repairs you make to their property can legally be subtracted from the rent with recipts given.
So here it would be illegal for him/her to just show up,walk in,& have you busted for something they don't understand. As a renter here,you have nearly the same rights as a homeowner. I loved rubbing their faces in it when they get high handed. I took care of the property,since they own it. But not completely so while I'm paying for it. You must be given due course even as a renter.

But what people don't understand here is that NO one was "busted". Fire hazards that were ILLEGAL were removed.

jesus mary mother of god.

 

[unionrdr]

Noone has to be busted for anything by our laws to make some of the things landlords try to get away with here illegal. Renters here have nearly as many rights as owners. Too many slum lords I guess.

 

[rhamilton]

But what people don't understand here is that NO one was "busted". Fire hazards that were ILLEGAL were removed.

jesus mary mother of god.

This story has a much different ending if there is a joint or other paraphernalia on the coffee table. The inspector removes the tanks, mentions to the police he saw drugs or smells something, narc brings a dog to your front door, he paws, warrant is issued, say hello to the judge. Bonus points if you are a registered gun owner or a gun was also seen in your apartment at the time as they'll bring in SWAT with a 4am forced entry since a (legal) gun + drugs instantly makes you Tony Montana. Best part! You have to pay for the door SWAT busts in.......

Many people experience this and it originates from these little 'inspections' when all the landlord had to do was tell the owner the fire code and give them an opportunity to comply on their own.

The whole situation would have been avoided with some communication between the apartment owners and the tenant.

 

[Phunhog]

But what people don't understand here is that NO one was "busted". Fire hazards that were ILLEGAL were removed.

jesus mary mother of god.

Like I said in an earlier post I am a professional firefighter. I can guarantee you that we CAN NOT enter a house without explicit permission from the owner except in the case of an emergency. We can't enter your house without your permission because your neighbor called and told us that you are a hoarder and that the house is a fire hazard. Trust me we get these calls all the time from pissed off neighbors who want the house cleaned up claiming it is a fire hazard. Of course it is BUT it is still their house.
As a side note....that is why often time the cops will come with us on a 911 medical call. They can legally get inside a house without a search warrant. They can't open closets or drawers but if something is out in the open it is fair game.

 

[neko]

I know everyone near me so I have no worries about them thinking it's an outdoor meth lab.

One time the kettle was boiling away in the backyard and I heard a neighbor tell his wife "Mmmm! Smells like a brewery"

I'd say my neighbors know what's going on.

 

[The_Dog_42]

This story has a much different ending if there is a joint or other paraphernalia on the coffee table.

So you're saying this story has a different ending if an illegal activity is perceived?...

ABG has made some of the best points here. There is no mention of cops doing anything.

The only thing I can add is if the cops or landlord suspected a meth lab and talked to the an actual drug making tenant about it, what is the first thing the tenant would do? My guess is "reform and become a productive member of society" is not at the top of the list.

 

[sudsmcgee]

I wonder how many cops voted in the legislative session that passed the law forbidding you from videotaping them... Just another example of blame the cops for something that they didn't cause.

Are you familiar with Chicago politics?

 

[sudsmcgee]

That law was recently overturned by the Supreme court. We can now videotape cops anytime they are on duty. I reread that blog post and it seems many here are taking it far more seriously than than the writer did.

It is my understanding that the law still exists, although if you are arrested you can easily fight he charges.