Adj:Stout Bock ?

[aaronbeach]

Due to a compromise between brewers were planning to make a stout:
a. with lager yeast (probably WLP833)
b. WITHOUT black patent or roasted barley
c. with coffee

Any thoughts or experience of building a stout-dark beer with munich malts dominating the base?

Any thoughts on building a stout roast/flavor without black patent / roasted barley, using choclate, pale choclate, crystal 120, Franco-Belges Kiln Coffee, etc...?

 

[motobrewer]

how are you going to make a stout without roasted barley?

sounds interesting, but if there's no RB, it's just a coffee bock.