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ohad

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I had a strange off-flavor with a sweet-potato beer I made.
here's the recipe:
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/sweet-potato-beer-112093/
and my water profile:
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f128/your-opinion-my-water-report-136186/

the beer developed a very noticeable flavor that is hard to describe... the beer finishes with something I find similar to dust or flour flavor.

The beer was very hazy, too, so I guessed it was a flavor from unconverted starches. Months later, it's still bad and I suspect it might even got worse.

Sadly, I just got another bad batch like that. A Belgian pale ale. I know I had a good conversion , so where did it come from?
It , too , has that dusty bitter finish and haziness ( although in both beers the haze gets stronger when chilled, so I suspect it to be chill haze)
Belgian pale ale recipe:

2.2 kg. Belgian Pale
1 kg. German Light Munich
0.4 kg. German Dark Munich
0.25 kg. Weyermann CaraAmber®
0.3 kg. Cane Sugar
15 g. Hallertau Tradition (Pellets, 7.1 %AA) boiled 60 minutes.
15 g. Hallertau Tradition (Pellets, 7.1 %AA) boiled 30 minutes.
30 g. Saaz (Pellets, 3.35 %AA) boiled 10 minutes.

another thing - this flavor in the Belgian pale ale wasn't there a few days ago!
I bottled the batch two weeks ago , and two bottles I opened during this time show a deterioration in flavor over time.

the sweet potato batch was done with White Labs WLP051 California Ale V , and the Belgian pale with White Labs WLP570 Belgian Golden Ale . both weren't too fresh , and I didn't do a starter - but I did that many times and did get good results. Anyway, I don't see how this can cause off-flavors to develop in the bottle.

Is this an infection based off-flavor?
It is possible that they where both fermented in the same (infected?) pail, and if so I hope the one that's in it now is OK...
 
OK first beer could be due to unconverted starches but the other one puzzles me. You are absolutely positive that it was fully converted?

Never heard of a dust or flour taste. Other than a starchy taste that is. Though mixing the yeast sediment into the beer when pouring could sometimes be described as a "dusty" taste.
 
The only thing I found in common with these two batches that I didn't do with others is that I pitched an old tube of white labs yeast with no starter.

What off-flavors would you expect to result from this?
I find it hard to find the words to describe this flavor.
 
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