6 Stone Clone recipes in Dec. 08's BYO Mag

[bob1852]

Doh, I meant Scotch Whiskey.

Don't you mean Scoth Whisky?

 

[mangine77]

Stupid question but I want to make sure. All of these Stone IPAs are considered an American IPA by category right?

 

[Saccharomyces]

Stone Pale Ale is an American Pale Ale, Stone IPA is an American IPA, Stone Ruination is an American Imperial IPA.

 

[Ceedubya]

I plan on making the Smoked Porter clone next month.

I also really liked the "Proffessional Homebrewers" article, makes a guy all tingly inside :rockin:

I'm gonna try out the Porter Potty Porter recipe from the Hank is Wiser brewery as well.

 

[Kelsch]

Those interested in subscriptions should see if anyone they know gets it and is needing to renew. The past few issues have had "buy a year, give a year to a friend" deals in them.

Can I be someone's friend?

I'd be willing to split it w/ whoever...

 

[IrregularPulse]

So how bout we get all these in beersmith files? haha

Curious that the clone calls for Mt hood and Perle, but STONE actaully uses Simcoe. What's everyone going to use?

 

[humann_brewing]

Well, I brewed the IPA clone last night and it is not much of a clone. I sucked on my effiency. I know the BYO recipes are based on 65%, so I thought I would be safe if I increased the volume from 5G to 5.5G with the same grain bill thinking I could get above 70% efficiency, but that didn't happen.

My preboil gravity (SG) was 1.044 with a 7.5G volume. I ended up only boiling for 80 minutes with a very slow boil because it was burning off quickly.

My OG was 1.056, but I think I have a little more than 5.5G in the fermentor.

I Mashed at 150 for 60 minutes with 4.25G (17Q), I drained 2.6G, and batch sparged with 3 gallons on the first run and 2.5G on the second run.

I should have used less sparge water. After I got my boil volume and drained the cooler to see how much was left and there was close to another gallon left and I am wondering if I used 4.5G / 2 sparges instead of 5.5G I would have had a higher OG. The water would have been more concentrated it seems.

What do you think? Beer smith calculates my brewhouse at 62%

 

[cactusgarrett]

1.75# Chocoate

I haven't paged through my issue yet to investigate, but in what form is this chocolate?

 

[AnOldUR]

+1 Can someone share the recipes

Is this legal

 

[mmb]

Is this legal

Other than copyright issues if BYO decides to claim it, I don't see why not.

 

[RC0032]

Is this legal

Thank you! I cant wait for my BYO mag to start showing up

 

[StunnedMonkey]

Is this legal

Well, it's clearly a copyright violation. Legally BYO could take action against Homebrewtalk for allowing that to be hosted here. Not saying they would of course, I have no idea. But it should probably be deleted.

 

[AnOldUR]

Well, it's clearly a copyright violation.

Yeah, you’re right. Plenty of HBTers post recipes that they find in magazines, but this is a little more blatant. But you gotta think that BYO would only benefit from the publicity. There was so much more to the article than just the recipes.

 

[Saccharomyces]

I haven't paged through my issue yet to investigate, but in what form is this chocolate?

It doesn't specify so I'm assuming the no-holds-barred 350*L stuff rather than pale chocolate.

 

[mmb]

I found a few beersmith files that look familiar. Do with what you will. These are with S-04 or Notty because I use dry yeast. I imagine that the WLP002 would be a good pick for a liquid yeast.

Recipe: "Rock" Bitter "Coco" Oatmeal Stout
Style: Specialty Beer
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0) 

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 5.00 gal      
Boil Size: 7.18 gal
Estimated OG: 1.095 SG
Estimated Color: 41.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 52.6 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount        Item                                      Type         % or IBU      
16 lbs        Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)            Grain        78.05 %       
2 lbs         Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM)                    Grain        9.76 %        
1 lbs         Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM)                Grain        4.88 %        
8.0 oz        Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM)              Grain        2.44 %        
8.0 oz        Caramel/Crystal Malt - 15L (15.0 SRM)     Grain        2.44 %        
4.0 oz        Black (Patent) Malt (500.0 SRM)           Grain        1.22 %        
4.0 oz        Black Barley (Stout) (500.0 SRM)          Grain        1.22 %        
0.25 oz       Galena [12.00 %]  (90 min)                Hops         11.7 IBU      
0.38 oz       Summit [17.00 %]  (60 min)                Hops         25.2 IBU      
0.40 oz       Ahtanum [5.00 %]  (60 min)                Hops         7.8 IBU       
0.40 oz       Williamette [5.00 %]  (60 min)            Hops         7.8 IBU       
3.25 oz       Cocoa Powder (Boil 15.0 min)              Misc                       
1 Pkgs        SafAle English Ale (DCL Yeast #S-04)      Yeast-Ale                  


Mash Schedule: 150* Single Infusion, Double Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 20.50 lb
----------------------------
150* Single Infusion, Double Batch Sparge
Step Time     Name               Description                         Step Temp     
60 min        Mash In            Add 25.63 qt of water at 165.3 F    150.0 F       


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Recipe: "Rock" IPA Clone 
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0) 

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 5.00 gal      
Boil Size: 7.18 gal
Estimated OG: 1.064 SG
Estimated Color: 6.1 SRM
Estimated IBU: 69.6 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount        Item                                      Type         % or IBU      
12 lbs 12.0 ozPale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)            Grain        93.58 %       
14.0 oz       Caramel/Crystal Malt - 15L (15.0 SRM)     Grain        6.42 %        
0.50 oz       Chinook [13.00 %]  (Dry Hop 5 days)       Hops          -            
0.43 oz       Magnum [14.00 %]  (90 min)                Hops         26.5 IBU      
0.64 oz       Pearle [7.00 %]  (90 min)                 Hops         19.7 IBU      
1.00 oz       Centennial [10.00 %]  (Dry Hop 5 days)    Hops          -            
2.00 oz       Centennial [10.00 %]  (15 min)            Hops         23.5 IBU      
1.00 items    Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min)          Misc                       
1 Pkgs        SafAle English Ale (DCL Yeast #S-04)      Yeast-Ale                  


Mash Schedule: 149* Single Infusion, Double Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 13.63 lb
----------------------------
149* Single Infusion, Double Batch Sparge
Step Time     Name               Description                         Step Temp     
60 min        Mash In            Add 17.03 qt of water at 160.2 F    149.0 F       


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Recipe: "Rock" Pale Ale
Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0) 

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 5.00 gal      
Boil Size: 7.18 gal
Estimated OG: 1.056 SG
Estimated Color: 14.5 SRM
Estimated IBU: 48.5 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount        Item                                      Type         % or IBU      
10 lbs        Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)            Grain        84.21 %       
1 lbs 8.0 oz  Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM)     Grain        12.63 %       
6.0 oz        Caramel/Crystal Malt - 75L (75.0 SRM)     Grain        3.16 %        
0.66 oz       Magnum [14.00 %]  (90 min)                Hops         41.4 IBU      
1.00 oz       Ahtanum [6.00 %]  (15 min)                Hops         7.2 IBU       
1.00 items    Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min)          Misc                       
1 Pkgs        SafAle English Ale (DCL Yeast #S-04)      Yeast-Ale                  


Mash Schedule: 156* Single Infusion, Double Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 11.88 lb
----------------------------
156* Single Infusion, Double Batch Sparge
Step Time     Name               Description                         Step Temp     
60 min        Mash In            Add 14.84 qt of water at 172.5 F    156.0 F       


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Recipe:  "Rock" RIS
Style: Imperial Stout
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0) 

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 5.00 gal      
Boil Size: 7.18 gal
Estimated OG: 1.094 SG
Estimated Color: 54.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 106.4 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount        Item                                      Type         % or IBU      
16 lbs 14.1 ozPale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)            Grain        81.82 %       
2 lbs         Amber Malt (22.0 SRM)                     Grain        9.69 %        
1 lbs 4.0 oz  Black Barley (Stout) (500.0 SRM)          Grain        6.06 %        
8.0 oz        Black (Patent) Malt (500.0 SRM)           Grain        2.42 %        
1.70 oz       Warrior [16.00 %]  (90 min)               Hops         106.4 IBU     
1 Pkgs        SafAle English Ale (DCL Yeast #S-04)      Yeast-Ale                  


Mash Schedule: 150* Single Infusion, Double Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 20.63 lb
----------------------------
150* Single Infusion, Double Batch Sparge
Step Time     Name               Description                         Step Temp     
60 min        Mash In            Add 25.79 qt of water at 165.3 F    150.0 F       



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Recipe: "Rock Ruined"
Style: Imperial IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0) 

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 5.00 gal      
Boil Size: 7.18 gal
Estimated OG: 1.071 SG
Estimated Color: 6.4 SRM
Estimated IBU: 172.2 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount        Item                                      Type         % or IBU      
14 lbs 2.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)            Grain        94.17 %       
14.0 oz       Caramel/Crystal Malt - 15L (15.0 SRM)     Grain        5.83 %        
2.00 oz       Centennial [10.00 %]  (Dry Hop 3 days)    Hops          -            
2.25 oz       Magnum [16.00 %]  (90 min)                Hops         154.2 IBU     
1.50 oz       Centennial [10.50 %]  (15 min)            Hops         18.0 IBU      
1.00 items    Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min)          Misc                       
1 Pkgs        SafAle English Ale (DCL Yeast #S-04)      Yeast-Ale                  


Mash Schedule: 149* Single Infusion, Double Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 15.00 lb
----------------------------
149* Single Infusion, Double Batch Sparge
Step Time     Name               Description                         Step Temp     
60 min        Mash In            Add 18.75 qt of water at 164.1 F    149.0 F       


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Recipe: "Rock" Smoked Porter 
Style: Other Smoked Beer
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0) 

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 5.00 gal      
Boil Size: 7.18 gal
Estimated OG: 1.061 SG
Estimated Color: 43.9 SRM
Estimated IBU: 59.6 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount        Item                                      Type         % or IBU      
10 lbs 12.0 ozPale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)            Grain        79.63 %       
1 lbs 12.0 oz Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM)                Grain        12.96 %       
12.0 oz       Caramel/Crystal Malt - 75L (75.0 SRM)     Grain        5.56 %        
4.0 oz        Lightly Peat Smoked Malt (2.8 SRM)        Grain        1.85 %        
1.80 oz       Pearle [7.00 %]  (90 min)                 Hops         56.0 IBU      
0.50 oz       Mt. Hood [6.00 %]  (15 min)               Hops         3.6 IBU       
1 Pkgs        SafAle English Ale (DCL Yeast #S-04)      Yeast-Ale                  


Mash Schedule: 154* Single Infusion, Double Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 13.50 lb
----------------------------
154* Single Infusion, Double Batch Sparge
Step Time     Name               Description                         Step Temp     
60 min        Mash In            Add 16.88 qt of water at 170.1 F    154.0 F       


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[mmb]

Yeah, you’re right. Plenty of HBTers post recipes that they find in magazines, but this is a little more blatant. But you gotta think that BYO would only benefit from the publicity. There was so much more to the article than just the recipes.

Agreed. There's something like 12 recipes in that issue that I can recall off the top of my head, including Boulevard Nutcracker. Saving that one for next Christmas.

 

[BeerPressure]

Can't find BYO around me, thanks for the recipes.

 

[Donner]

Can't find BYO around me, thanks for the recipes.

All the more reason to subscribe

 

[ajwillys]

All the more reason to subscribe

Definitely should subscribe. I get genuinely excited when I see my next BYO come in the mail.. I brewed the Ruination Clone about a week ago and I can't wait to see how it turns out. One thing to note though, with the apparent attenuation of the yeast they recommend (WLP002 or 1968), it's near impossible to match their OG and FG's.

 

[AnOldUR]

All the more reason to subscribe

Or in my case renew my subscription. And if you're like me, and wait until the last minute they want the full subscription rate of $28.00. I did a little searching and came up with this:

Brew Your Own Renewal

Only a few bucks off, but better than nothing. Anyone find any better deals?

 

[humann_brewing]

Or in my case renew my subscription. And if you're like me, and wait until the last minute they want the full subscription rate of $28.00. I did a little searching and came up with this:

Brew Your Own Renewal

Only a few bucks off, but better than nothing. Anyone find any better deals?

Check out the earlier post in this thread.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/6-stone-clone-recipes-dec-08s-byo-mag-89903/index3.html#post997296

I think that sale has ended, but they put out another one for 17% off. I think the code was SANTASALE17.

I bought when it was 16% off and got 2 years for $28.52

You can find the $25 price almost everywhere such as amazon. I don't know why they charge $28 on their site.

 

[Diablotastic]

You can get a year for $22 bucks if your a Barnes & Noble member

 

[secinarot]

I found a few beersmith files that look familiar. Do with what you will.

Is there a way to copy these recipes from this post into Beersmith?

 

[imaguitargod]

I found it interesting that they didn't give the PM recipe for the Bitter Chocolate Oatmeal Stout recipe....which is the one I REAAALLLY wanted to do. Guess I have to do the conversion myself.

 

[RC0032]

I found it interesting that they didn't give the PM recipe for the Bitter Chocolate Oatmeal Stout recipe....which is the one I REAAALLLY wanted to do. Guess I have to do the conversion myself.

Post it when you do please

 

[ajwillys]

I found it interesting that they didn't give the PM recipe for the Bitter Chocolate Oatmeal Stout recipe....which is the one I REAAALLLY wanted to do. Guess I have to do the conversion myself.

That might be because it has 4.5 pounds of specialty grains plus if you want to do a PM, you need roughly twice as much (so I've heard) 2 row to get enough enzyme power to convert the specialties. This rule might not hold true here since alot of the specialty grains don't convert anyway, but I would think you would still need 2-3 lbs of 2 row which would give you 6.5-7.5 pounds of grain which is quite a big partial mash.

 

[imaguitargod]

That might be because it has 4.5 pounds of specialty grains plus if you want to do a PM, you need roughly twice as much (so I've heard) 2 row to get enough enzyme power to convert the specialties. This rule might not hold true here since alot of the specialty grains don't convert anyway, but I would think you would still need 2-3 lbs of 2 row which would give you 6.5-7.5 pounds of grain which is quite a big partial mash.

Hmmmm...so you're saying I really shouldn't attempt it in PM?

 

[RC0032]

The specialties that dont convert you could break out and steep and and do a PM with the ones that do need to convert and 2 row. (just a thought hell I don't even know what specialties need to convert and what ones you could steep )

 

[ajwillys]

Hmmmm...so you're saying I really shouldn't attempt it in PM?

No, I wouldn't say that but I'm not sure its a simple conversion to PM. You could try what RC said or try to formulate a new recipe.

I will tell you that I did a milk stout PM before I started doing AG that also had a ton of specialties and I didn't put anywhere near enough 2 Row because the mash was already like 6 pounds. My FG ended up about 10 points too high and I think this is why. It did taste pretty terrific though.

You might try using 6 Row instead of 2 Row cuz it has more diastatic power. I'm not sure what grains need to be mashed but I'm pretty sure the flaked oats do actually and they are a big chunk of the bill.

 

[Donner]

I'm no expert, but that grain bill doesn't actually look that tough to convert to a PM. It really looks like the majority is 2-rows and the specialty grains make up a small percentage of the grist.

I bet you could simply change the majority of the 2-rows to extract and be fine. If you are worried about having too much grain, i'd suggest what someone else suggested, which is separate the mashing grains from the steeping grains. There is a BYO article called the 'dark side of partial mashing' and the author talks about splitting the grain bill to help with pH levels. I think most of the grains in the stone recipe could be steeped, except for the 2-rows of course. You might have to mash the flaked oats, as well. I don't know about carapils, but the others can be steeped together and added to the mash runoff in the brew pot.