5 hour Energy

[ChillyP]

Anyone ever brewed with 5 hour energy drinks? I was think a small 3gal batch of a wheat beer and adding a couple of 5 hour energy berry to it. I figured it would be a good brain beer for a Saturday mowing/yard work/etc ale. Does that sound crazy?

 

[Suthrncomfrt1884]

It does sound crazy, but it's probably just my opinion. Alcohol and energy drinks just shouldn't be put together in my opinion. It's extremely bad for you.

 

[novafire]

It does sound crazy, but it's probably just my opinion. Alcohol and energy drinks just shouldn't be put together in my opinion. It's extremely bad for you.

Umm why?

Alcohol CAN be bad for you and energy drinks CAN be bad for you, but I don't see why putting the 2 together would be any different than drinking them separately.

 

[DaveNay]

Umm why?

Alcohol CAN be bad for you and energy drinks CAN be bad for you, but I don't see why putting the 2 together would be any different than drinking them separately.

Mixing stimulants and depressants is not recommended by your doctor. Back in the day that was called a speedball and used Heroin and Coke. The list of people killed from this is pretty long and includes John Belushi and Chris Farley.

 

[novafire]

My morning coffee is NOT coke.

 

[Suthrncomfrt1884]

Because you're combining drugs that are completely different. Energy drinks are uppers, and alcohol is a downer. Alcohol naturally makes people a little tired. This is a sign that the body is fighting it and you need to relax. Adding energy drinks to the mix just confuses the body.

Also, since both alcohol and energy drinks are diuretics, you'll be going to the bathroom much more often. This just leaves you with a horrible hangover because your twice as dehydrated as you should be.

I suppose adding coffee in the beer could leave you with the same results, but the amount of caffeine in energy drinks is much higher than coffee.

 

[novafire]

Drinking a lot of beer also leads to a bad hangover, but no one is trying to talk anyone out of making beer on this forum. I doubt 2 "energy beers" a day would cause a hangover.

Are people confusing binge drinking with drinking energy drinks and beers?

 

[Suthrncomfrt1884]

Try drinking that same amount of beer spiked with energy drink and tell me which hangover is worse.

Yes, this is mainly discussing binge drinking, but bad is bad...regardless of how much you drink. And I realize that beer is bad for you too...but why make something worse?

As I said, my opinion is probably a bad one to take to heart. I've never liked energy drinks. I think it's just one more addiction that the world doesn't need. I have a friend who can't function anymore without a 5 hour energy every few hours.

 

[novafire]

Try drinking that same amount of beer spiked with energy drink and tell me which hangover is worse.

Yes, this is mainly discussing binge drinking, but bad is bad...regardless of how much you drink. And I realize that beer is bad for you too...but why make something worse?

As I said, my opinion is probably a bad one to take to heart. I've never liked energy drinks. I think it's just one more addiction that the world doesn't need. I have a friend who can't function anymore without a 5 hour energy every few hours.

So basically you have your own temperance movement against energy drinks?

I know a few alcoholics, THEY think they can't function without alcohol. Am I going to stop talking about beer on a beer forum because I know some people can't handle alcohol out there, NO. Some people can't handle food, ********* if I will not discuss a recipe online because I like to cook and eat.

 

[Cheeto]

Heck,

I am going to play devils advocate here.....

Do it, other that a batch of beer what do you have to lose?

If it works out you will have your own version of a "sparks"

 

[erock2112]

Heck,

I am going to play devils advocate here.....

Do it, other that a batch of beer what do you have to lose?

If it works out you will have your own version of a "sparks"

Typically I'd agree. However, i've also heard that mixing the two drugs is very dangerous for your heart. Unfortunately, I don't have a source to cite. I wouldn't try it myself, but if you aren't worried about it, go for it. Just let anyone who drinks it know what's in it.

 

[homebrewer_99]

My morning coffee is NOT coke.

...and your morning Coke doesn't have coke it in anymore...

 

[Palefire]

Isn't Red Bull and Vodka one of the most popular drinks among those college kiddies these days? Sounds like a version of that.

I say go for it - brew whatever you want. Sounds pretty nasty to me, but I'm not drinking it.

 

[mullenite]

5 Hour Energy is mostly vitamin B and flavoring. I doubt it would have much effect at all.

 

[JefferyL]

There are a lot of people that add coffee to their beer and that has quite a bit of caffeine.

I have added caffeine powder to a lawnmower light once, with out sterilization it caused gushers, probably about 3 grams for 5 gals.

Go to the vitamin store and get yourself some caffeine gel caps, split them open and add them to the end of the boil. They are super cheap.

 

[GuldTuborg]

Sounds nasty to me, but give it a try. If it turns out well, you have something great to drink. If it end up being nasty, you have something to serve to the in-laws at Thanksgiving. Either way, you win.

 

[SpanishCastleAle]

5 Hour Energy is mostly vitamin B and flavoring. I doubt it would have much effect at all.

^^^^This. If anything I'd expect any hangover to be less than it would have been without the 5-hour energy.

 

[Oldsock]

I think there is a big difference between adding “a couple” of these energy drinks to a 3 gallon batch of beer, and adding (for example) an entire one to each glass of beer you drink. Certainly no major risk, but the TTB is looking into whether to ban caffeinated alcoholic beverages (including coffee beers).

 

[riverfrontbrewer]

People use an entire pot of coffee for a five gallon batch, so I don't think 2-3 of these in a 3 gallon batch would be any different. They are advertised as having the caffene equivalent of 1 cup of coffee each. Let us know how it turns out.

 

[Lodovico]

Mixing stimulants and depressants is not recommended by your doctor. Back in the day that was called a speedball and used Heroin and Coke. The list of people killed from this is pretty long and includes John Belushi and Chris Farley.

This is the funniest thing I've read on here in awhile. Come on guy? Are you really comparing an alcoholic drink with some caffeine in it to a speedball?

Pretty dramatic and not even close to accurate.

 

[Suthrncomfrt1884]

This is the funniest thing I've read on here in awhile. Come on guy? Are you really comparing an alcoholic drink with some caffeine in it to a speedball?

Pretty dramatic and not even close to accurate.

I agree with him. No, it's not as bad as a speedball, but it's still bad. As mentioned above, the FDA is trying to ban caffeine in alcohol. There's a good reason for it.

No, I don't think mixing a few of these into a five gallon batch is anything to worry about...but the vodka and redbull that was mentioned is horrible for you. 2/3 redbull combined with vodka isn't something I'd be drinking a lot of.

 

[RchanceN]

5 Hour Energy consists of B vitamins, amino acids, and an unspecified amount of caffeine (presumably around 200mg). Too much of anything is bad for you and I wouldn't drink one of these things every day (mostly because of all the B vitamins), but I don't see how adding 2 of them to 3 gallons of beer would be harmful. The only danger of combining the two drugs that I can think of or find is dehydration due to the increased diuretic effect. Sure, you'll have a mildly increased diuretic effect combining the two, but we're only talking about roughly 12.5mg of caffeine per 12oz beer. Highly unlikely to have ANY noticeable effect. All of the dramatic news stories are related to BINGE drinking and much more caffeine than we're talking about.

Still, it's probably a bad idea for anyone with significant cardiac disease and what's the point? Caffeine does not counteract the sedative effects of alcohol very well, especially at these dosages, and it definitely won't give you any extra "pep". There's better/tastier ways to add berry flavor. If you want extra B vitamins (which hardly anyone needs unless they have a medical condition that causes malabsorption or chronic alcoholism) take a multivitamin a day.

Edit: The comparison to speedballs = ridiculous. Might as well compare a BB gun to a Howitzer.

 

[beerocd]

As mentioned above, the FDA is trying to ban caffeine in alcohol. There's a good reason for it.

It's the government; there$ only 1 rea$on I can think of them doing anything.

Might as well compare a BB gun to a Howitzer.

You can take an eye out with either one.

 

[PantsOffBrewing]

That speedball comparison cracked me up... you're suggesting we should all just stick with Heroin?

 

[RchanceN]

Rant incoming....Sorry.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Suthrncomfrt1884 View Post
As mentioned above, the FDA is trying to ban caffeine in alcohol. There's a good reason for it.
It's the government; there$ only 1 rea$on I can think of them doing anything.

The FDA is also the same body that allows methamphetamine to be a prescription drug, considers marijuana to have a "High potential for abuse; no current accepted medical use in the United States", and constantly recalls medications it once said were safe because they finally discover they're not.

...end rant.

 

[Oldsock]

That speedball comparison cracked me up... you're suggesting we should all just stick with Heroin?

You should try cheese ...

 

[GoldMiner]

That speedball comparison cracked me up... you're suggesting we should all just stick with Heroin?

 

[bovineblitz]

I'd try it. Expect extra bitterness from the nasty drink.

Mixing uppers and downers is bad in excess, but a little bit should be fine.

 

[humann_brewing]

do you not like coffee? how about a nice sessionable coffee porter.

 

[snazzy]

Not to get in the middle of this (because lord knows I do like a monster and vodka once in awhile) but my brother inlaw did have a mild stroke at 26 from to many jagerbombs.
That is jager and redbull. No major opinion just saying.