3F dregs

[badlee]

I recently made a starter,200ml og 1.020 for the first step.
I let it sit for 3-4 weeks and then repeated.
It had some wild activity and the second step still has krausen after a week and a hlaf(dirty looking).

It smells funky and there is some acidity on the nose also.
After a taste,it was lightly tart with some Brett,but the funk level on the nose is wicked(in a "I am not sure if I like it or not" kind of way), to the point of being a little off putting.

Anyone stepped up 3F dregs before?
Will update soon and post a pic

 

[Oldsock]

One of my favorite batches was 100% 3F dregs: http://www.themadfermentationist.com/2012/09/stolen-microbes-lambic-with-3-fonteinen.html

Dregs can always be hit or miss, especially with older bottles. That said, the aroma of a young starter may have little resemblance to the finished beer. Mine was super-sulfury for maybe a year before turning the corner.

 

[badlee]

That is encouraging,Oldsock,thank you.
I was looking to pitching them with a mix of Wallonian Farmhouse,Belle Saison and Lacto Brevis,all from day one.

 

[badlee]

Smells a lot cleaner now,the funk being more pleasing and subdued.
It was very clear 'til I picked it up,disturbing flotsam and jetsam,causing cloudiness.
My feeling of trepidation is soothed

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[secondbase]

I have a 3F bottle that I'm about to drink and save the dregs from. I was thinking about adding Cascade and RR dregs, but I might keep it strictly 3F after Mike's recommendation.

 

[badlee]

I will be having a Mariage Parfait tonight,dregs of which will go into a starter.
Migggghhhhtttttt throw them into the same brew

 

[505-Brewer]

Smells a lot cleaner now,the funk being more pleasing and subdued.
It was very clear 'til I picked it up,disturbing flotsam and jetsam,causing cloudiness.
My feeling of trepidation is soothed

Whats in the bottom of the starter?

 

[badlee]

Oal cubes

 

[505-Brewer]

Oal cubes

Oak cubes. Got it. Thank you.

 

[badlee]

Creating affordable,space consious accomodation to brewing minorities

 

[milldoggy]

I have a 3F bottle that I'm about to drink and save the dregs from. I was thinking about adding Cascade and RR dregs, but I might keep it strictly 3F after Mike's recommendation.

Fyi, Cascade is pure lacto

 

[badlee]

I have some of the Cascade Lacto,got it in a swap.
I is very good indeed. There has been talk as to the possibility of some Brett having gotten in there also.

 

[milldoggy]

I have some of the Cascade Lacto,got it in a swap.
I is very good indeed. There has been talk as to the possibility of some Brett having gotten in there also.

I guess I should have said cascade only uses lacto. The barrels might allow for some Brett. So not sure how much or little if at all is in their beer.

 

[foltster]

From 1 to 10, how sour does the cascade lacto take your homebrew?

 

[MileHighBrewer]

Fyi, Cascade is pure lacto

Cascade only ADDS lacto (besides fermenting with a "belgian" primary strain) but people have plated out brett on several of their beers. Almost certainly a result from various bugs/yeast on the skins of the copious amounts of fruit they add. But their strain of lacto is insane. Great stuff

 

[badlee]

It will go 7-8 without any effort on your part.
Give it some TLC, you get 9-heartburn.
In a good way

 

[foltster]

So while I never think $30 is a good price for a beer, it makes it tempting to spring for one of the cascades just to get that strain of lacto.

 

[badlee]

Hey,you are lucky to have the option of getting the beer to go with the lacto.
Not very probable that my local shop in Chiang mai have a bottle or two,lol.

 

[secondbase]

I really like the performance of the cascade lacto when pitched alongside other dregs. It is a really nice hop tolerant strain, IME.

 

[foltster]

Well sure, but I can also make 11 gallons of something really nice for the same $30 I would spend on 1 750ml bottle.

That said I think a hop tolerant strain that reliable sours is probably worth it.

 

[badlee]

Sure.
Better to go with a proven performer,than be let down by a maybe.
My Cascade lacto is going in alongside the 3F dregs and two Saison strains.
Something about the lacto and dry hops- it seemd to hold the flavour and aroma in the beer for so much longer than usual.