30,20,15,10,5 minute hop additions - are they worth it?

[jfrank85]

I like to imagine what i want to taste the most from the hops and do that addition at 20-5 minutes, then from 5-ko and DH i throw in what i would like to smell. Makes sense to me.

 

[KayaBrew]

I definately get the aromas and flavors in that time frame. I just finished off an American IPA with 12 lbs of 2-row, 1 lb of victory and the following hop schedule:

60 min - 2 oz. Willamette
30 min - 1 oz. Willamette
15 min - 1 oz. Willamette
5 min - .5 oz. Willamette
1 min - .5 oz. Willamette

No question it worked for me. Now, is it as strong as tossing 3 oz. into dry hop? That I could not say.

Since you brought it up, can you describe what an all-Willamette IPA is like? I've been tempted on many occasions to try this, but I have not as of yet...

 

[iijakii]

I just made a pale with bittering and then a big flameout whirlpool hop addition. This beer has the biggest nose and brightest punch-in-the-face I've ever made. Might be because I got the perfect gravities or my pH in fantastic range, :shrug:. I'm to the point where my records aren't the best anymore and this wasn't a very quantitative experiment - but I'll be sticking to bittering and then a metric ****tonne of flameout hops.

 

[Quaker]

Unless following someone else's recipe, I add my bittering charge as a FWH. I use pilsner as my base for all my beers due to availability here. So I'm boiling all brews for 90 minutes. The rest of my additions come after 15 minutes through DH. It means I have about 2 hours (slow to hit a boil) after sparging is complete to clean the mash tun and gear, ready a chiller, cook and eat a meal. It makes for a relaxed brewday. I haven't picked any vegetal or harsh flavors due to the long boil, but usually my FWH is only 10-15g.

Someday I'd like to do a side by side experiment comparing the FWH to a normal 60 minute addition, but that's quite a task since you are split from the lauter onward. Basically it requires 2 separate batches.

 

[Glynn]

That's what I do too. I feel that any hop additions at 20-59 minutes are "wasted". I do have a few recipes that add hops at 30 minutes, but those are generally because I needed a bit more bitterness. I don't feel that 30 minute hops contribute to flavor or aroma at all, just bitterness.

I add my bittering hops at 60 minutes, and flavor hops at 15ish, and aroma hops at 5 and/or 0, depending on the style of beer I'm making. I make mostly IPAs, so I'll add the hops at 60, 15, 10, 5, 0.

I plan on making a double ipa this weekend and wanted to use the 60, 15, 10, 5, 0 style of hopping. here is what i was thinking as far as my hops and sched. I was wonder what other ppl thought of this. I recently had an organic ipa by napasmith and loved the palisade hops and wanted to incorperate it into a iipa. is this going to be a muddled mess im looking for something fruity

0.50 tsp Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 mins) Water Agent 1 -
14.00 lb Pale Malt, Maris Otter (Thomas Fawcett) (3.0 SRM) Grain 2 84.8 %
1.00 lb Crystal Malt 1 (Thomas Fawcett) (45.0 SRM) Grain 3 6.1 %
0.50 lb Carapils (Briess) (1.5 SRM) Grain 4 3.0 %
0.50 oz Warrior [16.00 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 5 22.0 IBUs
1.00 lb Corn Sugar (Dextrose) (0.0 SRM) Sugar 6 6.1 %
1.10 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins
1.50 oz Amarillo Leaf [10.40 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 8 17.6 IBUs
1.50 oz Simcoe leaf [14.10 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 9 26.3 IBUs
2.00 oz Citra pellet 1 [13.90 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 10 25.3 IBUs
2.00 oz Palisade [7.80 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 11 7.8 IBUs
2.00 oz Citra pellet 1 [13.90 %] - Aroma Steep 0.0 min Hop 12 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [124.21 ml] Yeast 13 -
1.00 oz Amarillo Leaf [10.40 %] - Dry Hop 14.0 Days Hop 14 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra pellet 1 [13.90 %] - Dry Hop 14.0 Days Hop 15 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Amarillo Leaf [10.40 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 16 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra pellet 1 [13.90 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 17 0.0 IBUs