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3 FLoyds Zombie Dust attempt. Help/info requested

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I'm drinking the ZD clone that I made with Heady Topper Yeast (I used Gigayeast 054 Vermont IPA yeast). The first one I made with WL001, and it was great. This one with the Heady Topper yeast is absolutely over the top! What a great brew..try the Heady Topper yeast.
 
I have made this several times in the extract version and love it.
I have recently moved to AG and I'm excited to do the AG version to compare.
One question I have though....
If I want to double to a 10 gallon batch do I just double the ingredients or is it better just to make 2 5 gallon batches?
 
I make this recipe a couple time per year! Always all grain. Last time, I made a 10 g batch so I would have 5g to take to a party. I just doubled the batch and put in 10g fermentor. Then legged 2 five gallon batches and dry hopped. It turned out exactly as it always does. Doubling the recipe will be fine...


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I have made this several times in the extract version and love it.
I have recently moved to AG and I'm excited to do the AG version to compare.
One question I have though....
If I want to double to a 10 gallon batch do I just double the ingredients or is it better just to make 2 5 gallon batches?
yo can brew it at ten, just use the percentages listed, using your software make sure you set the IBU, and ABV and you should be fine.
 
It is good stuff!! I have also used the same grain bill and used Falconers Flight 7C's hops and it also turned out great.
Enjoy!!


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Turned out really good. Not quite as citrusy as using all citra. A little more piney taste associated with the cascade I believe.


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Here is the finished product.... To bad it is dark out has a much better color in the sun light....
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I brewed the extract recipe for this on Saturday but I made a newbie mistake. I used 6lb of LME (Liquid Malt Extract) instead of DME (Dry Malt Extract). So if my conversion is correct, it would have been about 7.2 lbs of Dry Malt Extract. This is the first time I didn't use a kit (only 2nd attempt at home brewing) and didn't know the difference. Enough with the excuses... :smack:

How is this going to affect my beer? My thoughts are it will be sweeter because of the extra malt.
Is it ruined? Obviously not a Zombie Dust clone anymore.
Is there anything I can do to help the end result? Have read that adding extra dry hops would help but I know dry hops are for aroma so not sure how that take away from the sweetness of the malt. We have 3 oz of Citra hops for dry hopping already.

Other than my mistake, the brew went great. 3 days into fermentation and still pretty solid airlock activity. Probably will let it sit for another week before testing gravity and moving to secondary.
 
I brewed the extract recipe for this on Saturday but I made a newbie mistake. I used 6lb of LME (Liquid Malt Extract) instead of DME (Dry Malt Extract). So if my conversion is correct, it would have been about 7.2 lbs of Dry Malt Extract. This is the first time I didn't use a kit (only 2nd attempt at home brewing) and didn't know the difference. Enough with the excuses... :smack:

How is this going to affect my beer? My thoughts are it will be sweeter because of the extra malt.
Is it ruined? Obviously not a Zombie Dust clone anymore.
Is there anything I can do to help the end result? Have read that adding extra dry hops would help but I know dry hops are for aroma so not sure how that take away from the sweetness of the malt. We have 3 oz of Citra hops for dry hopping already.

Other than my mistake, the brew went great. 3 days into fermentation and still pretty solid airlock activity. Probably will let it sit for another week before testing gravity and moving to secondary.

what was your gravity? LME has less sugar than DME. 1lb of LME = ~.8lb of DME. So that would be ~4.8g of DME.
 
Dry hops do not add bitterness. They add aroma (which impacts perceived flavor). You should be fine there.

That was my understanding as well. Dry hops are more aroma. The early hop additions (early in your boil) are the only ones that affect the bitterness.
 
Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I feel as though dry hops absolutely add bitterness as well as aroma. When I dry hop in the keg, I definitely get a pungent taste post-dry hopping.
 
Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I feel as though dry hops absolutely add bitterness as well as aroma. When I dry hop in the keg, I definitely get a pungent taste post-dry hopping.


Aroma enhances the flavor in Beer just like it does in food, so it makes sense that the flavor is more pungent tasting. But more pungent flavor does not mean more bitterness . I am not sure what temperature extract the bittering compounds from hops, but I am pretty sure that it is higher than dry hopping temperatures .Try plugging your nose and drinking an IPA and see if it taste the same.
 
Just went to check the current gravity, 1.014. A little lower than expected but looks like all is good to transfer to secondary. Smelled great and tasted like flat beer which I'm happy with.
 
Pardon if this has already been covered, but when I put the extract version into Beer Smith, I only come up with an OG of 1.052.

What am I missing?
 
Aroma enhances the flavor in Beer just like it does in food, so it makes sense that the flavor is more pungent tasting. But more pungent flavor does not mean more bitterness . I am not sure what temperature extract the bittering compounds from hops, but I am pretty sure that it is higher than dry hopping temperatures .Try plugging your nose and drinking an IPA and see if it taste the same.

I'm talking about an actual sensation on the tongue. It's probably because I'm dry hopping in the keg and there are tiny hop particulates floating around in the beer, but it's absolutely a change in bitterness that is separate from the aroma.
 
I'm about 2.5 weeks in on the secondary for the extract recipe. What are people doing for time in secondary prior to the 5-7 dry hop period?
 
I'm going to say that most people aren't transferring this beer to secondary. I fermented for 5 days at which point it was at final gravity, then dry hopped in primary for 5 days and then kegged.
 
I'm going to say that most people aren't transferring this beer to secondary. I fermented for 5 days at which point it was at final gravity, then dry hopped in primary for 5 days and then kegged.

Fair enough, I'll look to start the dry hop shortly, but 10 days to keg sure seems short...
 
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