3 FLoyds Zombie Dust attempt. Help/info requested

[skeezerpleezer]

I will post when I get to my PC

 

[TrubHead]

Apparently whoever was contributing to that thread does not know what they are talking about. I like Citra with any/all other American hops; it is my go to hop. It is an excellent late addition/dryhop. My favorite personal recipe other than this ZD has has a lot of Citra/Amarillo/Centennial late, with Simcoe/Citra dryhop. You won't be dis-satisfied.

You got me thinking now how/what hop combos to try in this recipe. Might wait and see how the IPA (currently in the fermenter) tastes with the magnum, cascade and simcoe combo before committing to the hop schedule. Might throw citra in the IPA dry hop mix with cascade and possibly chinook. Do you think chinook would be wasted in the dry hop?

 

[mux]

I will post when I get to my PC

Yeah!

 

[Horace]

I will post when I get to my PC

Sweet, thank you...

 

[skeezerpleezer]

You got me thinking now how/what hop combos to try in this recipe. Might wait and see how the IPA (currently in the fermenter) tastes with the magnum, cascade and simcoe combo before committing to the hop schedule. Might throw citra in the IPA dry hop mix with cascade and possibly chinook. Do you think chinook would be wasted in the dry hop?

i like Chinook, but haven't ever used it with Citra. I would use less of it, as it can be overpowering.

 

[skeezerpleezer]

Here is the other recipe I like a lot. It has been a huge hit, even if non craft drinkers are around the kegs don't last long at all. Some people don't like much caramel, but this mix is phenomenal. I have made it a lot of times, the carafoam/carapils is probably not really needed. It will hold nice head till the pint is finished. I am actually planning to make another batch of it tomorrow due to requests. The hops play very well together. "Cara (multiple caramel malts) Sutra (Summit/Citra)":

Cara Sutra
Brew Type: All Grain
Style: American IPA
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Volume: 7.00 gal
Boil Time: 60 min
Efficiency: 78.6 %

Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
11.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 87.1 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 4.0 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 4.0 %
0.38 lb Carafoam (2.0 SRM) Grain 3.0 %
0.25 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 2.0 %
1.00 oz Summit [14.00%] (60 min) Hops 43.3 IBU
0.75 oz Citra [12.30%] (15 min) Hops 14.2 IBU
0.75 oz Citra [12.30%] (5 min) Hops 5.7 IBU
0.50 oz Centennial [9.20%] (5 min) Hops 2.8 IBU
0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [6.90%] (5 min) Hops 2.1 IBU
0.75 oz Citra [12.30%] (1 min) Hops 1.2 IBU
0.75 oz Centennial [9.20%] (1 min) Hops 0.9 IBU
0.75 oz Amarillo Gold [6.90%] (1 min) Hops 0.7 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50%] (Dry Hop 10 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Citra [12.30%] (Dry Hop 10 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Simcoe [12.40%] (Dry Hop 10 days) Hops -
1 Pkgs California Ale (DCL Yeast #S-05) Yeast-Ale

Original Gravity: 1.065 SG
Final Gravity: 1.012 SG
Estimated Color: 10.4 SRM
Bitterness: 70.9 IBU
Actual Alcohol by Volume: 6.9 %

 

[TrubHead]

skeezer - thanks for this recipe too. Curious why some recipes are 90 min boils and others 60 for IPAs.

 

[skeezerpleezer]

I did a 90 min. Boil on one zombie dust because I used pilsner instead of 2row (needs a 90 min boil). Some people may do it to caramelize the wort some, or to get better efficiency (sparge more and boil off more).

 

[ao125]

I have an all NS IPA recipe worked up to do sometime, but would be interested in seeing yours if you want to share.

All of my recipes are up on my Hopville, for the most part.
http://hopville.com/recipe/636960/imperial-ipa-recipes/imperial-nelson-sauvin-ipa

Going to brew the passion fruit lambic I have up there next, then the Zombie Dust clone.

 

[natewv]

am i missing something on the AG hop schedule? It seems like you have some FWH then nothing until 20 minutes left in a 60 minute boil? I really want to make something with a ****load of Citra.

 

[mytommygundont]

Just brewed this yesterday. The day was a nightmare. Everything went wrong. I caught my Mash Tun on fire (I forgot that I had insulated the bottom last week and tried to direct fire). That was stupid. Also my efficiency sucked so I had to boil off forever. It's a new system and I'm still working out the kinks.

My OG came in at 1.069 which is right where I wanted it. Citra smells amazing-I'm going to have to modify some of my other recipes to add it in! It's bubbling away right now. I think I'm going to dry hop in the keg. IPAs don't last very long in my house, so I don't have to worry about grassy flavors.

 

[Gear101]

This is a very good beer to drink, think I am running low, so I might have to brew some more of this, have two lbs of citra that I need to use up.

 

[TrubHead]

skeezer - went to the LHBS and got all the grains cracked and bagged together for a 3 gallon ZD batch. Asked for citra hops and store only had 1 oz left. Now I'm faced with figuring out a hop schedule with 1 oz citra along with a good supply of magnum, cascade, chinook, willamette and summit.

Any suggestions are appreciated.

 

[wskee]

I am going to brew the extract version of this in a few days. I will post up how it goes and appreciate and pointers on this one in advance.

This will be my 3rd beer I have brewed but I just had some ZD and loved it!

 

[skeezerpleezer]

am i missing something on the AG hop schedule? It seems like you have some FWH then nothing until 20 minutes left in a 60 minute boil? I really want to make something with a ****load of Citra.

You aren't missing anything. FWH stays in the whole boil. The rest are 20 min or less to get massive flavor/aroma. Look up hop bursting. If you are wanting to use a lot of Citra, i would say this would be one worth doing.

 

[savylemons]

This beer is awesome. I made the AG version and am getting down to the last few bottles. As others have suggested, cold conditioning for about 10 days does wonders for this beer. It's not a practice I use for my other IPA's but the harsh astringency seems to mellow and the mango/citrus really comes through with some time in the cold. Anybody know why this is ? I left one at room temp and cooled for 48 hrs and compared it to the cold conditioned one and it didn't even compare.

 

[curry767]

This beer is awesome. I made the AG version and am getting down to the last few bottles. As others have suggested, cold conditioning for about 10 days does wonders for this beer. It's not a practice I use for my other IPA's but the harsh astringency seems to mellow and the mango/citrus really comes through with some time in the cold. Anybody know why this is ? I left one at room temp and cooled for 48 hrs and compared it to the cold conditioned one and it didn't even compare.

Did you dry hop during the 10 day cold crash, or did you do it beforehand?

Also did you prime your bottles with extra dextrose or corn sugar due to longer cold crash?

Cheers

 

[skeezerpleezer]

You don't want more sugar if you cold crash.

I usually cold crash a couple days prior to kegging/bottling, but I think the other poster meant it was better if you leaved a carbed bottle in the fridge for some time before drinking, not cold crashing before bottling. So dryhop, bottle, let it carbonate, then cold condition.

 

[theveganbrewer]

This beer is awesome. I made the AG version and am getting down to the last few bottles. As others have suggested, cold conditioning for about 10 days does wonders for this beer. It's not a practice I use for my other IPA's but the harsh astringency seems to mellow and the mango/citrus really comes through with some time in the cold. Anybody know why this is ? I left one at room temp and cooled for 48 hrs and compared it to the cold conditioned one and it didn't even compare.

I get the same thing. Thought I had ruined the beer when I first drank it. Now it's tasting amazing and no astringency.

 

[skeezerpleezer]

I got a ticket to Dark Lord Day, so will be making the trip from Atlanta. If anyone else is going and wants to trade some of this let me know, I can pack some in my suitcase. Or just share a couple brews for that matter. I would like to sample some other people's.

And if any of you locals can snag a 6 or 12 of the real deal between now and then I will pay when I get there if you want to meet up. And Ragnarock also, that is the best porter I ever had.

 

[TrubHead]

Brewed a 3+ gallon all grain ZD today with citra and a few other hops. Did the hop bursting method with 2 - 4 different hops per interval. Was the boil aromatic. Everything was going fine til about 8+ minutes before flame out. The propane ran out but had a back up canister ready. Dang was it a long day but there's room in the temperature closet so why not.

Going to dry hop with citra remnants along with cascade and maybe something else. Should be interesting.

 

[TrubHead]

Pitched safale us-04 at 4 pm yesterday then checked this morning around 9 am. Wow that yeast is active. It was bubbling every second. Am I the only one who smiles hearing an active bubbler?

 

[moonpig]

Active fermentation is like music to my ears I love it!!!!!

 

[MoeFoties]

Mine has been in the keg for exactly seven days now. This beer is AMAZING! I know it's called an "American Pale Ale", but it definitely fits the IPA paramaters a little more closely. Either way, this is a phenominal beer that won't last long around my house. Now the challenge is to duplicate this beer, but have it come in around 4.5% ABV so I can drink it in greater quantities!

 

[skeezerpleezer]

Glad you liked it. I am actually pondering going the other way, and doing an imperial version (9-10%).

I got my last batch kegged a couple days ago. It is damn good also.

 

[Gigan]

i just made a citra pale ale / IPA (so close due to the overlapping parameters) But Skeez this is going next in my fermenter thanks for sharing and Ill update when I get it done

 

[curry767]

So what's everyone's verdict on the best yeast to use for this beer?

My 3rd attempt is just about finished in primary and I used Wyeast ESB 1968 this time.

It's seems most people like using the dry yeast for this beer. Is that just because of availability & cost, or do you prefer the flavour?

Cheers

 

[Schnibbz]

So what's everyone's verdict on the best yeast to use for this beer?

My 3rd attempt is just about finished in primary and I used Wyeast ESB 1968 this time.

It's seems most people like using the dry yeast for this beer. Is that just because of availability & cost, or do you prefer the flavour?

Cheers

I've brewed a total of 24 gallons using 1968. I think it is damn close to perfect (I've got plenty of the real thing to taste against).

 

[TrubHead]

skeezer - Gravity has now reached 1.012 from 1.064. The nearly 2 per second bubbles have almost silenced and it's been only 4 days. Tasted the sample and it's light tasting with a bit of body, slightly bitter and grape fruity...very nice.

I usually wait about 10 days or so before a 5 day dry hop. Then do the cold crash.

Would you recommend moving the schedule up being that the gravity reads such?

 

[theveganbrewer]

So what's everyone's verdict on the best yeast to use for this beer?

My 3rd attempt is just about finished in primary and I used Wyeast ESB 1968 this time.

It's seems most people like using the dry yeast for this beer. Is that just because of availability & cost, or do you prefer the flavour?

Cheers

I used 1968 and the beer turned out fantastic.