100% Stainless Heating Element

[dstar26t]

with $30 ground shipping to PA

 

[orangehero]

Anyone know the length of the Brewha?

 

[MindenMan]

I just found this one:http://www.southernboystills.com/#!product/prd15/2174320705/100%-stainless-steel-heating-element
Stainless 2500 watt@220 $29.99.

It appears to be the same as : http://www.hantover.com/cgi/hnt.wsc/product.htm?p-item-num=40830&p-callprog=cust-search

But the Hantover is $98.00
Neither one is "standard" hot water tank thread

 

[spkguitar]

I just found this one:http://www.southernboystills.com/#!product/prd15/2174320705/100%-stainless-steel-heating-element
Stainless 2500 watt@220 $29.99.

That's the one that started this thread.

 

[KevinP]

with $30 ground shipping to PA

Ugh

 

[MindenMan]

Sorry about that spkguitar, I thought I had found it a little too easily. ADHD sucks.

 

[dstar26t]

Anyone know the length of the Brewha?

Here's one but it's a little pricey. You can order just the element but they have a $200 minimum order. 14" from TC to end of element.

http://brewha.co/products/ulwd-electric-element

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[KevinP]

Brewha is $30 to California also.
They clearly do not want to actually sell any of these...

 

[Beek]

30 to Michigan too. And they have a US address even though I'm pretty sure they are out of Canada. Either way, we all know they could ship it for less than HALF of that. Brewmation will charge me 13 for shipping on their 14" one. Brewha could be doing a lot of business with us but it appears they have no desire to.

 

[BREWHAEquipmentCo]

Hi all, Nathan from BREWHA here. Initially we only planned on selling our complete Heating Element setup but we have had numerous inquiries for the 100% stainless element itself. The issue for us is that we are set up for shipping large freight (our BIAC brewing system and other vessels) not small items so the lowest rate UPS charges us is $30. We are working on finding more effective shipping routes but until then, the best method is to get a few people together and order three or more. Shipping cost is the same, and for a limited time we will sell them for $45 each when three or more are purchased.
Thank you


BREWHA Equipment Co

 

[Beek]

Wrong thread

 

[Minbari]

worst excuse EVER! I highly doubt you have a minimum ship price of $30 from UPS for everything under the sun.

even if it were true, use fedex or USPS. just confirms that you dont really want to sell anything piecemeal.

 

[Beek]

I'm also thinking that if you can sell three at 45, there's no reason you can't sell one at say 50. I understand running a business and needing to make a profit, but I go to other homebrew supply sites and their prices are fair. These are not. I agree that Bobby needs to carry these and I hope he will. I know we'd get a fair price.

 

[KevinP]

Bobby Bobby Bobby!!!!

 

[orangehero]

Unless all water heater elements start being made with stainless screw plugs I doubt the price will be any less. Price seems fair to me. You should check out the prices for all-stainless industrial elements.

 

[Beek]

Unless all water heater elements start being made with stainless screw plugs I doubt the price will be any less. Price seems fair to me.

30 dollars for shipping seems fair to you?

 

[orangehero]

Looks like free shipping if you buy 3 for the BrewHa.

Where are these manufactured? If I'm not mistaken the Brewmation ones are US made.

 

[jpalarchio]

Looks like free shipping if you buy 3 for the BrewHa.

Originally I think they were offering a discount of $45 per element if you bought three + $30 shipping. Now they're $55 each if you buy three with FREE shipping. That's a much better... Hey! Wait a second!

Yeah, same price as before.

It's on the high end of what I'd be willing to pay assuming the length is correct; it's just a matter of coordinating with others. I'd like to see them available for about $40 but really what's $15 in a build that probably adds up well over a $1,000.

 

[Beek]

I emailed BrewHa earlier today, probably the reason he posted on here. Afterwards he emailed me back and to thank me for my "tip" he offered to send me a free bottle opener. Sooo... They have the means to send me a bottle opener for free, with free shipping, for complaining about their price and telling them that they are losing business, but they don't have the means to lower shipping on an element that weighs, what, a pound or two max? Put it in one of those if it fits, it ships boxes from USPS. It'd cost five bucks. Charge me ten. Better than 30.

 

[newtonjason]

Hey guys, thought i'd chime in here for a second

I recently bought a few of these elements from nathan at brewha and have been using them for a couple weeks now (2 x 10 gallon batches plus about 6 hours running a still)

The build quality is good, and its nice to not leech anymore rust. I've been brewing electric for a few years now and have replaced my camco's twice (in 3 years) for rust issues. Even though its worth a little more, Im happy to never think of them again and after a couple more years they will for sure pay for themselves

Nathan mentioned that he just started selling them as individual elements, so whatever shipping issues he's currently having, im sure will be short lived

Here are some pics, hope they are helpful.

 

[jleiii]

I emailed BrewHa earlier today, probably the reason he posted on here. Afterwards he emailed me back and to thank me for my "tip" he offered to send me a free bottle opener. Sooo... They have the means to send me a bottle opener for free, with free shipping, for complaining about their price and telling them that they are losing business, but they don't have the means to lower shipping on an element that weighs, what, a pound or two max? Put it in one of those if it fits, it ships boxes from USPS. It'd cost five bucks. Charge me ten. Better than 30.

I'm not trying to justify the sellers position, but potential buyers clearly don't understand large/medium business shipping reality. That bottle opener may well fit in an envelope and go out with the days mail, after running though a postage machine. Can't do that with a heating element.

As a mfg small business owner, I can appreciate the sellers position on alternate shipping methods. While shipping with any company may be 'easy' to do, packaging materials, proper shipping label stock, and configured options in their software may make it impossible, or at least very inconvenient.
If we were to get a request to ship with Airborne, for example, our answer is NO. While we could do it, it would add a significant amount of time and effort, easily exceeding the actual shipping cost, and eat up profit.
We use builtin shipping options with Quickbooks for all our shipping. This limits us to UPS, Fedex and USPS. All 3 require us to have accounts, and with USPS the account must be pre-funded. Before QB integrated with these services shipment processing took about 5 times longer than it does now, for every shipment. For freight shipments we need yet more accounts, FedEx Freight, TNT, etc. Not to mention international shipments.
On a $20 item we manufacture (consumer item, vs large commercial sales) the margins are very slim to start with, otherwise we would not have any buyers. Do this for 30 years and you'd understand a lot better!

Clearly $30 is an outrageous amount, but that might be what it takes to manage non-standard shipping methods. For those that don't know, the commercial shipping options these shippers offer can be very different from those used by small businesses, or individuals. Minimums, volume discounts, on-demand pickups (extra $), etc. UPS charges us to show up at our door every day, with the amount varying on our shipping volume, but that pickup fee never goes to 0. If you don't have daily pickups, on-demand pickup has an extra charge. Dropping off shipments is even more 'costly'.

Hope this helps people realize they may well not be out to rip you off.

 

[KevinP]

Something about 16500 watts on their way to me has me pretty excited.

 

[Bobby_M]

Working on it

 

[Beek]

Working on it

Yes!!

 

[augiedoggy]

what about the fact that none of these stainless elements are ultra low watt density? wont scorching and element mineral buildup be more of an issue here?

 

[KevinP]

Not for me. Mine is an eHERMS. Electric element only ever contacts water in the HLT.

 

[augiedoggy]

Not for me. Mine is an eHERMS. Electric element only ever contacts water in the HLT.

So what are you using for the boil kettle? I have a herms setup too but it only used for mashing...

 

[KevinP]

Fire

 

[augiedoggy]

Fire

I had a feeling you would say that...

Well that defeats the purpose for many using electric systems.... One of the key reasons for going electric in my case was to eliminate the restrictions of a gas flame system and for consistent results...


So the question remains for those with a complete electric brew system, Is there a 220v ulwd element that will not rust to use for the boil kettle?

cleaning the base of the element works between brews but it would be nice not to have to worry about it.

 

[sandyeggoxj]

I had a feeling you would say that...

Well that defeats the purpose for many using electric systems.... One of the key reasons for going electric in my case was to eliminate the restrictions of a gas flame system and for consistent results...


So the question remains for those with a complete electric brew system, Is there a 220v ulwd element that will not rust to use for the boil kettle?

cleaning the base of the element works between brews but it would be nice not to have to worry about it.

Fwiw, my bk element is a camco and I have no problems with it at all. It gets the hop crud cleaned after brewing and then stored dry.