• Please visit and share your knowledge at our sister communities:
  • If you have not, please join our official Homebrewing Facebook Group!

    Homebrewing Facebook Group

10-10-10 BGS Swap Sign-up and Details

Homebrew Talk

Help Support Homebrew Talk:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
Brian, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'm surprised to find you saying it's over carbonated because I always felt it was bit flat. The recipe is Jamil's Wee Heavy: 91.25% Marris Otter, 5.55% 40L, 2.6% Special B, 0.6% roast barley; 34g 8.3% AA Northern Brewer @ 60; Scottish Ale yeast. I mashed at 156 and did some kettle carmalization. OG 1.087, FG 1.024.

Edcculus - I'm certainly not planning to sample all three on Sunday. That'll just be too much. But I will go one by one in three consecutive days.

Hmm, I wonder if this bottle fermented a bit more in the bottle? It definitely didn't taste like a 1.024 FG but it couldn't have gone much lower in the bottle without blowing up! It didn't pour with a big head but there was definitely more tingly carbonation on the palate than I would have preferred for this beer. Still, it was very good. I'll definitely have to consider putting that on the to brew list this winter.
 
I've received all my beers (both packages Ed).

Tried Hookstrat's 4-Grain Wee Heavy last night and I just couldn't come up with a better or sufficiently different review than Brian's. Really good beer that I thoroughly enjoyed. Now I know what a Scotch Ale is supposed to be like. Thanks for sending it!

I'll be out of town until Sunday night but hope to drink a DMC then.
 
Ed, can you please confirm for me again that you got my package and that all was well with it. The folks at the UPS store are saying they got another call from shipping saying the second package broke as well. But if you say it's all good then I'll let them know.
 
Jackson - yours came with swing top, and red top bottles correct? If so, I did get that package. They were all wrapped individually in plastic bubble wrap self sealable packages.

the only thing I can think is one bottle broke, so UPS removed it and repackaged the box?
 
You should have gotten two swing tops, two red caps, and two silver (edit: gold) caps. What did you actually end up with?
 
BTW Ed, what's in the two regular bottles? You guys that sent me the corked/caged bottles, they almost look too cool to open. Almost.

I'll be poppin' my 'opening a corked/caged bottle' cherry.
 
The corked/caged bottles are the 10-10-10 beer. The other regular bottles are a Rye IPA. Brewed with 2 row, rye, crystal 60, honey malt and some Munich. Around 70 IBUs. Warrior for bittering. Simcoe and Amarillo for flavor. Dry hopped with Simcoe and Amarillo. About 7.5%ABV.
 
Ed, got your RIPA box, still no 101010. I love rye beers, and especially Simcoe Amarillo dry hopping. I have a rye pale ale on tap (prob just a pint or two left) with the same. yummy!
 
Drinking Hookstrat's Imperial Pils

Aroma - Sour. A slight malt presence, but the sour is kind of overpowering for me. It's not boom in your face, but it is pretty obvious. As I work on the glass the sourness is gone and I'm left with malty sweet and plumb. My initial impression is that this will be unbalanced.

Appearance - A bit hazy, but that could be from the shipping. I really like the caramel wheat coloring. Thin dissipating head.

Flavor - Malty rich, wow that's nice. I'm not sure what the sour was in the aroma but it's not in the flavor at all. Sweet on the back of the tongue and just a hint of grassy hop flavors in the front. A slight hint of caramel flavoring.

Mouthfeel - A bit heavy for me. I would like more carbonation or a bit less body considering it's intense malt profile. Somewhat slick but not in a bad way.

Overall - I enjoy this. It's not something I could drink too many of at once, it's a bit too sweet for my taste, but I'd be happy to find one in my hand. The aroma is my least favorite part, it's not terribly inviting with its sweetness and I would personally prefer just a touch more hop bitterness and flavor.
 
You should have gotten two swing tops, two red caps, and two silver (edit: gold) caps. What did you actually end up with?

Hmm, If I remember right, I only got 1 swing top. I'm back in my hometown for my wedding, which is 4 hours away from where I live, so unfortunately, I can't check. I do think it was 1 swing top and 2 of everything else.
 
Sigh. Ok, well, if it's alright by you and alright by the swappers I'd rather refrain from sending out another box. Especially for one bottle. We should arrange another swap in the future (I can throw in some tunes ta boot ta boot) when I have a larger bottled variety. Of all the bottles I'm surprised the strongest one is the one that broke.
 
Happy 10-10-10! I'm trying to get NCBeernut to come over and taste everyone's beer with me today back to back. We'll do judging sheets and pictures whenever it all goes down, but I'm going to have to wait for him since there's no way I'll be able to drink 4 of these beers and do justice to the reviews. I'm also going to try to get another of my buddies who is more of a casual drinker to come to the tasting too, to get a bit of a different perspective.
 
Well, NCBeernut couldn't make it over today so I decided to have one of my 10-10-10s and save in-depth tasting of all 4 for another day. I apologize for not getting to the others today but I'd really like to do it right having them back to back with multiple reviewers so I made the decision to delay. I'll give some quick tasting notes on mine below.

Poured a honeyed gold. Crystal clear with clouds of bubbles rising through the glass and a thick, creamy white head on top. Aroma is blessed with moderate spicy esters and a little isoamyl acetate (banana aroma). A bit of candy-like sweet pilsner malt aroma is there too. Sweet malt and spicy esters on the palate. Alcohol warmth in the finish. A little bit of caramel coming through as well. Moderate body for the mouthfeel with a strong effervescence that thickens the body in the finish. Alcohol aroma begins to come through as the beer warms. This beer is STRONG! No flaws as far as I can tell, though it is a bit less complex than I'd like. I think with another couple years of aging it could be really epic (<---that word is so overused!). :D

I'll post a pic later when I can get on my desktop.
 
Happy 101010! I'm still missing Ed's 101010 but I did pop open Hoookstrat's just now, and let me just start off by saying that I'm very tempted to open the other one of his but I want to stay awake for Dexter.

Hookstrat's 10-10-10

Aroma - Malt. Very pleasant and clean. Inviting. A touch of alcohol and plumb, slight hint of honey-like sweetness. I would like more yeast character here.
7/12

Appearance - A hazy dark caramel bronze with a huge rocky off white head. The head retained throughout the beer which I love to see.
2/3

Flavor - Fantastic balance for such a big beer. Big malt presence with just a hint of bittering. Faint signs of alcohol heat. A bit of fruit and plumb notes, but again I would like more yeast character. This is very malt centric.
16/20

Mouthfeel - Excellent carbonation. Just the right amount of body to let you take this in. A bit creamy and sticky.
4/5

Overall - Great effort. I really enjoy this beer. As I said, I'm tempted to crack open the other one. The alcohol heat sets in a bit more as it warms up, which is to be expected. But so does the malt character and flavor. I would really like a little more yeast profile in the nose and flavor aspects. Malt profile, however, is an A+!
8/10

Total: 37/50

Hookstart101010.jpg
 
Wow! It's so quiet in this thread! Here is a review to liven things up a bit! It looks like my 10-10-10 review throwdown will occur Oct. 24. Sorry for the delay, but I really like to do these x/x/x reviews right.

SpanishCastleAle's Strong Scotch Ale

Aroma - While pouring and photographing this beer I got whiffs of really nice toffee and plum. Now that I'm holding the glass to my nose, the toffee is still there, mingling with plummy dark fruits and faint ethanol. Slight smoke as the beer warms.

Appearance - Poured a crystal clear, beautiful rich caramel brown. Ruby highlights show through. It poured with a smallish bubbly tan head that dissipated quickly to a thin spotty lace. I really liked how this beer looked.

Flavor - Begins malty, but quickly goes too dry, as you warned. Finishes with a lingering minerally bitterness that isn't quite to style. The malty flavors that aren't overwhelmed by the bitterness and dryness are quite nice. Light caramel and toffee continue into the flavor from the aroma. Unfortunately, it doesn't last long on the palate before the aforementioned foes wipe it away. All that remains is a minerally, slightly roasty and astringent aftertaste. There is a hint of smoke coming through as the beer warms. A savory "soy sauce without the saltiness" flavor also started to emerge upon warming.

Mouthfeel - Light to moderate body, too thin for style. Too much carbonation that dries the palate and contributes an unwelcome carbonic bite.

Overall - It's like deja vu. Again, I'm having a wee heavy with a lot of potential, but that is hampered by being too dry. A wee heavy really needs to be deeply malty and sweet and almost sticky, whereas this is dry and quite crisp. It's difficult tasting those malty flavors in this beer, because they are gone in a flash. Mash higher, use more crystal malts or kettle caramelize more, ferment cooler, pitch less, oxygenate less, do whatever it takes to get this beer sweeter. I'd also drop the bittering down a bit or adjust the water profile. There are sulfates or carbonates or something in there that seem to enhance the bitterness and provide a minerally flavor I wasn't crazy about. I swirled this beer around a lot and once it was degassed a bit, the malt and sweetness began to come through a bit more. Definitely carbonate this beer less next time. The carbonic bite of the carbonation was working against the sweet malty flavors. Having said all that though, I actually enjoyed this beer. It is too dry for a wee heavy, but it is a good beer nonetheless. Once degassed, the maltiness shone a bit brighter and the bitterness and minerally flavors decreased. Did you use any smoked malt in this beer? I seemed to start detecting a tiny hint of smoke once the beer warmed up in both the aroma and the aftertaste. Anyway, thanks for sending this beer along. I'm sure your next attempt at a wee heavy will be much closer to the mark!

DSC_4577NEF.jpg
 
I'm with you Brian. Here's Ed's RIPA:

Aroma - Sweetness. My initial reaction is that this beer is going to coat my entire mouth. Some resiny hops come through the thickness though. Hint of amaretto. Some wood and dark fruit scents come through as it warms.

Appearance - Much darker than I expected (saving the photos for the 101010's) and very cloudy. Almost a light brown but with some lighter tones on the outside. Very small head that dissipated very quickly. No lace.

Flavor - It's really hard to pinpoint a dominant flavor in this one. The rye compliments the hops nicely and gives it a sharp, bitter, resinous bite but I'm having a hard time grasping any malt character. I'm getting a bit of that amaretto flavor I mentioned earlier. The honey malt comes through a bit but I think it really masks the other malts completely.

Mouthfeel - Surprisingly light bodied for an ipa and a bit thin for me. It's weird because the one thing I generally dislike about ipa's is the thick chewy body (I love ipa's, just not that aspect of them), but this isn't working for me.

Overall - This beer seems like it hasn't found itself yet. There isn't one defining characteristic to hang the hat on. I have a feeling it's the combination of rye and honey malt that isn't working in this. They're very contrasting flavors and seem to be fighting for control. A slight sweetness in the flavor comes through as it sits but that's very quickly contrasted by the sharp hop bitterness that gets an emphasis from the rye. I love (LOVE) rye in beers and make quite a few myself, but I'm just not digging this one. What was the overall characteristic you were going for with this brew? You mention in your post that the hop flavor and aroma are "out of this world" but I'm having a very hard time finding them at all (could just be the one I got).
My suggestions would be to eliminate the honey malt altogether and let the crystal be the contributing sweetener. And to Mash a bit higher. I always feel bad when I don't really dig a fellow homebrewer's beer, but I hope my comments were at least helpful somewhat.
 
Glad my Strong Scotch not really being a Strong Scotch didn't totally ruin it for you Brian. I'm brewing attempt #2 in a week or two and will use your feedback to steer me closer. I used 4th or 5th generation Nottingham on it and it's just not the right yeast (I actually mashed at 156* F). Next attempt will use part of a cake of Scottish Ale yeast. Do you think, with some slight tweeks, that beer could pass as a 90/-?

I tried Hookstrat's 10/10/10 on 10/10/10 but I had just driven 4 hours, then flew two flights, then another drive and I think my senses were a mess so I hope to drink/review another tonight. I'm not sure of the correct term but I got what I think is called a strong 'catty' aroma but it was prob just my senses being a mess. I was cooking last night and didn't trust my senses then either.

EDIT: Oh yea, no smoke.
 
Glad my Strong Scotch not really being a Strong Scotch didn't totally ruin it for you Brian. I'm brewing attempt #2 in a week or two and will use your feedback to steer me closer. I used 4th or 5th generation Nottingham on it and it's just not the right yeast (I actually mashed at 156* F). Next attempt will use part of a cake of Scottish Ale yeast. Do you think, with some slight tweeks, that beer could pass as a 90/-?

I tried Hookstrat's 10/10/10 on 10/10/10 but I had just driven 4 hours, then flew two flights, then another drive and I think my senses were a mess so I hope to drink/review another tonight. I'm not sure of the correct term but I got what I think is called a strong 'catty' aroma but it was prob just my senses being a mess. I was cooking last night and didn't trust my senses then either.

EDIT: Oh yea, no smoke.


With the right yeast I think that recipe would make a very good 90/-.
 
Jackson - sorry you weren't a fan of the RIPA. Not every beer is for everyone, and it was the first time I brewed that recipe. Constructive criticism is always welcome on how to improve!

I show all of the RIPA beers I shipped as delivered.


I posted this in the members section, but I realized not everyone here is a member. On Friday morning, my family's house pretty much burned down. The fire started in the garage and spread causing heavy smoke damage (and water damage from the fire dept) to the entire house. We all made it out completely fine, but have lost pretty much everything that was in the house. All of the 10-10-10 beers were sent out by my brother, and the tracking #'s were in the fire. If you didn't receive your beer, let me know and I'll try to work something out. I think I have some back here with me, the rest is still down in Charleston. I saved all of the beer from the house, except one bottle that burst from the heat. It was in a room that the fire didn't make it to. The bottles did get really hot and have a lot of smoke/soot in them.
 
So sorry to hear that Ed, good that everyone is safe. I tried a Rye IPA last night and really enjoyed it. I jotted down a review but won't be able to post it until tonight.
 
Glad to hear that everyone is safe, Ed. That's a terrible thing to go through, and on your wedding week no less!

Brian, nope, not ready yet. I tried one the other day and I'd say it needs a couple more weeks at least. Sorry.
 
Back
Top