☕ Coffee ☕: Ingredients, Roasting, Grinding, Brewing, and Tasting

[MaxStout]

If anyone is thinking of selling their Behmor, get it listed on ebay quick. Mine just sold for $315, and there are none on ebay right now.

Damn, if I'd known your Behmore was in that price range, I would've bid on it.

There seems to be a void in that price range, say $200-$500 or so. The Behmor 1600+ models are now discontinued. The Fresh Roast machines are ~$175, but it just looks like a toy to me. I get the impression you need to bump up to $2k-plus to get something worthwhile and that's much more than I care to spend.

I'll keep plugging away with my heatgun and dogbowl, as I make decent coffee that way. Albeit 1/3lb. at a time.

 

[HarborTownBrewing]

Couple more weeks until the replacement is in stock. https://www.roastmasters.com/behmor.html

 

[TallDan]

Damn, if I'd known your Behmore was in that price range, I would've bid on it.

There seems to be a void in that price range, say $200-$500 or so. The Behmor 1600+ models are now discontinued. The Fresh Roast machines are ~$175, but it just looks like a toy to me. I get the impression you need to bump up to $2k-plus to get something worthwhile and that's much more than I care to spend.

I'll keep plugging away with my heatgun and dogbowl, as I make decent coffee that way. Albeit 1/3lb. at a time.

Honestly, stick with the heatgun for at least a little while. Used 1600+'s like mine were going for <$250 just a couple weeks ago on ebay. The only reason why I got as much as I did is because new ones aren't available for a few more weeks and people on ebay are goofy. Once the AB is widely available, I'll bet you can get a 1600+ in good shape for $200.

 

[applescrap]

Let's take a look at the lowball offer. Curious, did you charge them shipping or did you pay for it? Assuming you charged them let's say 30 in shipping. Ebay gets 10 percent, PayPal 3 and you net 301, which is actually 271 minus said 30 in shipping. if you have box done. Without, then box and shipping. If it doesn't get there in good shape then all bets off. So Haha, I come up with 250 locally.

Interestingly enough, I wrote this before you said 250. Just didn't post. So 250 doesn't seem as lowball. Now let's just say someone had already bought one for 250. When they sale they may be very happy with 200 and that's when I show up.

 

[TallDan]

Let's take a look at the lowball offer. Curious, did you charge them shipping or did you pay for it? Assuming you charged them let's say 30 in shipping. Ebay gets 10 percent, PayPal 3 and you net 301, which is actually 271 minus said 30 in shipping. if you have box done. Without, then box and shipping. If it doesn't get there in good shape then all bets off. So Haha, I come up with 250 locally.

Interestingly enough, I wrote this before you said 250. Just didn't post. So 250 doesn't seem as lowball. Now let's just say someone had already bought one for 250. When they sale they may be very happy with 200 and that's when I show up.

The buyer paid $356.71 with shipping. (Note that I paid $369 new 4.5 years ago with free shipping and 5 or 8lb of sample coffees.) I still had the original box and ample packing materials, so it's double boxed at no cost to me. I had a promo from ebay so I'm not paying the normal listing fee on it, I believe that i'll net ~$310 all said and done after paypal fees.

 

[applescrap]

Solid work there, I mean talk about getting back what you put in. What do you think of the Silvia. It doesn't use a ppf, I assume.

 

[TallDan]

Solid work there, I mean talk about getting back what you put in. What do you think of the Silvia. It doesn't use a ppf, I assume.

Not a PPF. Honestly, after my grinder upgrades and paying more attention to my espresso process, I'm not quite as anxious to replace it. I'm still keeping my eye out for an upgrade, but the roaster went by it on the priority list (obviously). But, for the price of a silvia with PID, you're very close to the dual boiler breville, which looks to be a much better buy to me. In fact, I've considered getting a breville to replace my silvia. It doesn't have a rotary pump, which is on my list of features for a new espresso machine, but for the price, that might be something I can live with.

On the other end of the spectrum, I did just notice a single group slayer on CL earlier today. I don't think I'm quite willing to spend $7k on an espresso machine though.

 

[Br3w4u]

If anyone is thinking of selling their Behmor, get it listed on ebay quick. Mine just sold for $315, and there are none on ebay right now.

 

[Br3w4u]

I’m glad to see that you got a good offer on your roaster but sad that I won’t be seeing it on my kitchen counter. It’s all good though, I wouldn’t have paid more than 250-275. I should start surfing eBay more often.

 

[HarborTownBrewing]

Watching these price fluctuations is funny. It's amazing how people will get over-anxious and over-pay for something. @TallDan I'm happy for you, but wow.

I'm still shopping for a truck. This has been ongoing for months now, and watching some of the price fluctuations is simultaneously annoying and funny. It snows for a couple days in March and 4x4 prices go up $500+...

 

[applescrap]

Speaking of cl it's a dream come true for some of you. This guy is selling a roasting biz with roaster, shop, client lists, etc... Years of decent rep matters. He claims 6k in product too. 4 grinders

 

[HarborTownBrewing]

That's not a bad deal at all Apple. A 20kg roaster easily can be $35k+++ all on it's own.

If we each chip in for the biz, it's what, like $5k a piece???

 

[TallDan]

Congrats on the new business venture, @applescrap! That's awesome!

 

[passedpawn]

Applescrap Roasting. Oh yea.

 

[Inkleg]

@applescrap lowball him.

 

[applescrap]

Haha, you all know there is no way I want to work that hard!

But what a deal. The grinders, pro computers, etc...all that has to add up.

 

[applescrap]

@applescrap lowball him.

20k ?

 

[TallDan]

Haha, you all know there is no way I want to work that hard!

But what a deal. The grinders, pro computers, etc...all that has to add up.

According to the math here, you could have over $1M/year in profits!
https://coffeecourses.com/buying-a-...-few-considerations-so-you-do-not-get-burned/

 

[MaxStout]

Speaking of cl it's a dream come true for some of you. This guy is selling a roasting biz with roaster, shop, client lists, etc... Years of decent rep matters. He claims 6k in product too. 4 grindersView attachment 622374

Most of that's capital and inventory. The marketing/media/client lists/IP are of indeterminate value without knowing what the owner's book of business amounted to. The lease could be dumped, just haul out the gear and go.

Do a Scrappy's Shark Tank and make a low-ball offer.

 

[applescrap]

Haha what is going on here? I posted that for you not me. I'd rather be poor and have time to golf then be a millionaire and work all the time. Clearly you have me mistaken for somebody else.

I have posted the numbers before though kind of like that article. I remember now I shared them with Harbor town brewing a ways back on this thread. I agree with that article and people do the same with beer. they think they can make a living with 10 barrels. if you don't have the coffee and you don't have the beer then what the h*** are you going to sell. Seems obvious but if you wanna make a lot of money better sell a lot of coffee. My thing would be the 20 sack. Really good ethiopian at 20 a sack. Maybe have a 10 bag. There is no way I would do it. My son asked me once why I didn't own a restaurant or cook for a living and I had to Tell him that I didn't want to work that hard. I value the time with the children more than anything.

 

[passedpawn]

I'm a thousandaire with time to golf, roast coffee, etc. Hakuna mutata.

 

[MaxStout]

Haha what is going on here? I posted that for you not me. I'd rather be poor and have time to golf then be a millionaire and work all the time. Clearly you have me mistaken for somebody else.

I have posted the numbers before though kind of like that article. I remember now I shared them with Harbor town brewing a ways back on this thread. I agree with that article and people do the same with beer. they think they can make a living with 10 barrels. if you don't have the coffee and you don't have the beer then what the h*** are you going to sell. Seems obvious but if you wanna make a lot of money better sell a lot of coffee. My thing would be the 20 sack. Really good ethiopian at 20 a sack. Maybe have a 10 bag. There is no way I would do it. My son asked me once why I didn't own a restaurant or cook for a living and I had to Tell him that I didn't want to work that hard. I value the time with the children more than anything.

Not to mention that the best way to ruin a perfectly good hobby is to try to make money from it.

 

[Br3w4u]

My thing would be the 20 sack. Really good ethiopian at 20 a sack. Maybe have a 10 bag.

Hey you can make some good money selling 20 sacks. I did it a lot in high school

 

[applescrap]

A little oxy clean goes a long way to cleaning a cup. This roast was weird I went 5 of 6 Power straight through on a big pound.1740 to 1c. Smells good, couldn't wait, first pour over tasted baked I thought at first but by end of cup was nice! No Char

 

[Br3w4u]

A little oxy clean goes a long way to cleaning a cup. This roast was weird I went 5 of 6 Power straight through on a big pound.1740 to 1c. Smells good, couldn't wait, first pour over tasted baked I thought at first but by end of cup was nice! No CharView attachment 622520View attachment 622521

Those beans look really nice. Good job!

 

[Br3w4u]

I have been having some beans that don’t ever seem to puff up and first crack is very subtle. I keep over roasting them. I can’t figure out if it’s just a bad batch of beans, maybe something I am doing wrong, or maybe some beans are just like that. One is a Costa Rica and the other is a Tanzania.

 

[TrickyDick]

My bean cooling apparatus.

 

[HarborTownBrewing]

I tried my first 2lb batch tonight on the Bullet, and it went really well.

I didn't know if it would be of any use, but I used an overlay of a 1lb batch for the same bean (Honduras, Legacy Farms) and wanted to see if I could come close.

All I can say is...holy crap this thing can put out some heat. I am absolutely amazed how close to each other these two bean temps are despite the longer one being twice the quantity of beans. For 1lb I had charged at 175C, for 2lbs I charged at 200C and started with a higher temp.

The only thing that really bothered me was I got to 1C later with the 2lb batch. I marked it prematurely, so it actually started about 1.5 mins later than the 1lb batch. Had a nice, solid crack though and I ended it with 15% development (again, despite what the graph says since I marked it too soon).

 

[pshankstar]

Brought some of these beans back with me from our trip this week. I hope to roast some tonight or sometime this weekend. Not too shabby, the exchange rate makes them just shy of $10/lbs.
Description of the beans:
https://greenbeanery.ca/collections/green-beans-c-21/products/cuban-altura-lavado

 

[Kealia]

I just roasted 1/4lb of Monsoon Malabar that I picked up from the Green Coffee Buying Club.
The description mentioned a peanut butter finish that I couldn't pass up trying, so I went for it.
The beans are lighter in weight and color than any other beans I've seen, almost to the point of being white.
I took them to about 30 seconds past 1C in the Behmor then pulled them. Nice looking roast that I forgot to take a pic of so for now you just get the "before".