☕ Coffee ☕: Ingredients, Roasting, Grinding, Brewing, and Tasting

[HarborTownBrewing]

At first crack go to p1. Also, go with 8 oz batch and modulate between p4 and P5 if your b temp gets around 307.

 

[jimyson]

At first crack go to p1. Also, go with 8 oz batch and modulate between p4 and P5 if your b temp gets around 307.

I’m regretting the samples that I sent.

I’m also wondering how bad it will be to have the same bean roasted 3 different ways in the cabinet.

 

[HarborTownBrewing]

Practice makes...better coffee!

 

[jammin]

Practice makes...better coffee!

I might need to update my signature

 

[passedpawn]

^^ I see you found the new smilies I added. I put a whole coffee category in there

 

[jimyson]

Why don’t they show up on the iPhone mobile app?

 

[applescrap]

^^ I see you found the new smilies I added. I put a whole coffee category in there

I see all the emojis when I post, but only see stuff like this....

:coff1

from others on the mobile app. Should post this somewhere more appropriate, sorry.

Why don’t they show up on the iPhone mobile app?

 

[psubrewer]

I've upgraded to a new roaster and I'm selling the Behmor. It's a 1600 Plus that I bought a year ago from Roastmasters. I would say about 20 roasts on it. This isn't a for sale thread so please pm me if you're interested. I'm thinking 130+shipping from 01863. Shipping will probably run 30-60 depending on location.

 

[jimyson]

I've upgraded to a new roaster and I'm selling the Behmor. It's a 1600 Plus that I bought a year ago from Roastmasters. I would say about 20 roasts on it. This isn't a for sale thread so please pm me if you're interested. I'm thinking 130+shipping from 01863. Shipping will probably run 30-60 depending on location.

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What have you upgraded to?

 

[psubrewer]

Sigh...

The Behmor is a great machine but it wasn't for me sadly. I need to roast 1lb at a time and the Behmor is not the machine for that. I think the Behmor really shines with 8oz roasts and if that's all I was doing I would stick with it.

 

[HarborTownBrewing]

Behmor is advertised as a one pound machine, but really it shines under 12oz. Which is a big capacity for under $2k.

I don't understand the need to roast one pound on it though. The control of the roast just won't be there at that weight. With a longer preheat and decent wall voltage I've taken 1 pound to 2c, but the flavor will be mediocre.

Regardless, i would respectfully suggest that with only 20 roasts on that machine, you haven't done enough roasts to see if it can do 1 pound. Also, judging from how dirty it is inside, that will impact how effectively it will heat and how quickly it pushes the roast. When those sensors aren't clean, the machine doesn't work great.

Just some thoughts to save you some money instead of getting rid of it. It probably took me 40 to 50 roasts before I really started to understand the roaster and how to get the most flavor out of it.

 

[jimyson]

Sigh...

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The Behmor is a great machine but it wasn't for me sadly. I need to roast 1lb at a time and the Behmor is not the machine for that. I think the Behmor really shines with 8oz roasts and if that's all I was doing I would stick with it.

Please forgive me, but I have no idea what that is in your picture.

 

[HarborTownBrewing]

To add to my post, a couple ways to really speed through a roast with higher weights would be a long preheat (2.5 mins) and not inserting the chaff tray for the roast which makes a HUGE difference. Keep the roaster on P5 manual, which is 100 percent power. If needed, put a piece of wood on the front legs to make the beans roll closer to the heat lamps.

 

[psubrewer]

Haha sorry, that's a converted bread machine roaster using a heat gun as the heat source, aka corretto roaster.

 

[jimyson]

To add to my post, a couple ways to really speed through a roast with higher weights would be a long preheat (2.5 mins) and not inserting the chaff tray for the roast which makes a HUGE difference. Keep the roaster on P5 manual, which is 100 percent power. If needed, put a piece of wood on the front legs to make the beans roll closer to the heat lamps.

Man, no chaff tray on that Dumerso would be a damn mess, and a fire hazard for that matter.

 

[psubrewer]

Behmor is advertised as a one pound machine, but really it shines under 12oz. Which is a big capacity for under $2k.

I don't understand the need to roast one pound on it though. The control of the roast just won't be there at that weight. With a longer preheat and decent wall voltage I've taken 1 pound to 2c, but the flavor will be mediocre.

Regardless, i would respectfully suggest that with only 20 roasts on that machine, you haven't done enough roasts to see if it can do 1 pound. Also, judging from how dirty it is inside, that will impact how effectively it will heat and how quickly it pushes the roast. When those sensors aren't clean, the machine doesn't work great.

Just some thoughts to save you some money instead of getting rid of it. It probably took me 40 to 50 roasts before I really started to understand the roaster and how to get the most flavor out of it.

I was getting 1c at 18 mins regardless of what I did. Preheating, manual mode, I tried all the tricks. The sensors are clean. I really think this is a great machine, just not for trying to push the charger weight to the max 1lb, just not enough power imo.

The corretto roaster gets me to 1c in under 10 mins for a 1lb roast with power to spare. With a thermocouple in the chamber I get bean temp and have a decent shot of producing a consistent roast.

 

[jimyson]

I was getting 1c at 18 mins regardless of what I did. Preheating, manual mode, I tried all the tricks. The sensors are clean. I really think this is a great machine, just not for trying to push the charger weight to the max 1lb, just not enough power imo.

The corretto roaster gets me to 1c in under 10 mins for a 1lb roast with power to spare. With a thermocouple in the chamber I get bean temp and have a decent shot of producing a consistent roast.

That’s quite a difference from what I’m getting to fc. I’m in the 12:00-16:00 with 16 oz of beans.

 

[jimyson]

I was getting 1c at 18 mins regardless of what I did. Preheating, manual mode, I tried all the tricks. The sensors are clean. I really think this is a great machine, just not for trying to push the charger weight to the max 1lb, just not enough power imo.

The corretto roaster gets me to 1c in under 10 mins for a 1lb roast with power to spare. With a thermocouple in the chamber I get bean temp and have a decent shot of producing a consistent roast.

I bet a good clean would go a long way on that machine.

 

[HarborTownBrewing]

And no chaff tray. If you have a vacuum, it's not a big deal to clean up after the roast. Just don't open the door until it's stopped!

 

[jimyson]

And no chaff tray. If you have a vacuum, it's not a big deal to clean up after the roast. Just don't open the door until it's stopped!

Ha, yeah, I open the door for cooling with a fan. Luckily I’m in my basement so the mess is no big deal. My shop vac handles it like a boss.

 

[psubrewer]

And no chaff tray. If you have a vacuum, it's not a big deal to clean up after the roast. Just don't open the door until it's stopped!

I haven't heard that one! I could see how that would help.

Anyway I am a 1lb roaster and the Behmor is not the machine for that imo. Yes you can roast 1lb, but I can't control the roast curve to the degree I would like. Line voltage variations, ambient temperature ect all control your ability to do so with the Behmor and I'm not saying you are not getting good results. But I'm not.

With the corretto, I feel like I can do that and I like the results I taste in the cup so that's what I'm going with. Just thought I would throw my machine up here first for what I think is a good price for someone looking to get into coffee roasting. Cheers everyone!

 

[pshankstar]

The FreshRoast 500SR arrived today with some beans. Two pounds from Brazil and two pounds from Guatemala. Based on the description from the bag my wife asked I roast some of the beans from Guatemala, so I did of course.

I measured out 100 grams of green beans and roasted them three times. After they were done roasting them, I weigh them again and they about 88 grams. They smell great after roasting them.

I wish I could brew some tomorrow , but I know it too early. Thanks again to everyone for your help, input & suggestions !!

 

[jammin]

@HTB - Pretty cool trick about pulling the Behmor’s chaff tray - never heard of that. I’d like to hear more about how it works and what you’ve experienced. Also good trick on tipping the bean mass back towards the elements. Good stuff.

@psu - looking forward to hearing about your roasts on the HG/BM. I’ve built a couple of those myself and enjoyed some great coffee from them. Were you able to “hack” yours and wire it for continuous stir? Sounds like you’ve probably done some research about them.

 

[TallDan]

I wish I could brew some tomorrow , but I know it too early. Thanks again to everyone for your help, input & suggestions !!

You absolutely CAN brew some today. On a few occasions, I've brewed coffee right after roasting. It's always better after a few days, so don't brew it all now, and don't judge it based on an overnight rest, but if you're anxious to try it, go for it.

 

[pshankstar]

You absolutely CAN brew some today. On a few occasions, I've brewed coffee right after roasting. It's always better after a few days, so don't brew it all now, and don't judge it based on an overnight rest, but if you're anxious to try it, go for it.

Thanks Dan! I also spoke with @Ruint this morning and he said the same thing. It was a hit with my wife and the in laws. It was funny that my wife and her mom thought it was strong but my father in law and I didn’t think so.

Anyhow thanks again everyone and I look forward to roasting more and getting more beans to try. I think I’ll order the 4lbs sampler pack from Sweet Maria’s next with maybe an additional pound or two when I place the order.

I can’t wait to see where this new rabbit hole takes me!! Cheers!

 

[jammin]

The sampler is a good idea in theory but not so much in practice IMHO. As a beginner, it’s tough to “nail” your roasts.
Consistency is something you should strive for. It might not be as fun, but you’d be much better off to get 10lbs of 1 bean. You’ll have good roasts and not so good, but it will allow to taste the difference in what your roast does vs the different types of beans.
Furthermore, sampler packs usually never have the best beans. You get a all the mediocre stuff that’s generally been sitting around the warehouse for a while.

 

[TallDan]

The sampler is a good idea in theory but not so much in practice IMHO. As a beginner, it’s tough to “nail” your roasts.
Consistency is something you should strive for. It might not be as fun, but you’d be much better off to get 10lbs of 1 bean. You’ll have good roasts and not so good, but it will allow to taste the difference in what your roast does vs the different types of beans.
Furthermore, sampler packs usually never have the best beans. You get a all the mediocre stuff that’s generally been sitting around the warehouse for a while.

I'd say they are good for beginners for those reasons. You'll roast 10 pounds just getting the processes down, so even if you use the same beans they won't be consistent. Sure, they'll all be hit and miss and you won't understand why, but you'll have that with the first 10 pounds anyway, and until you get the process down you won't have a chance of anything different. Plus it's fun to try a bunch of different coffees.

Furthermore, samplers never have the best beans, and tend to be priced well, so you get a bunch of mediocre stuff to try at a low price with your first mediocre roasts.

 

[ba-brewer]

I have gotten some decent coffee from the sweet maria's samplers, they try to give a variety of coffee from around the world so there is usually a Ethiopian or Kenyan in the mix and it is what is in their standard offerings. They also have pretty high standards so even the mediocre stuff is pretty good.

 

[Paulaner]

I've upgraded to a new roaster and I'm selling the Behmor. It's a 1600 Plus that I bought a year ago from Roastmasters. I would say about 20 roasts on it. This isn't a for sale thread so please pm me if you're interested. I'm thinking 130+shipping from 01863. Shipping will probably run 30-60 depending on location.

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[pshankstar]

Thanks @jammin and @TallDan! That’s a good point. Get several pounds of one variety and try different roasts, take good notes and then dial in the consistency. Maybe the sampler pack would be good afterwards to try a variety of different beans from different locations.
Any suggestions on a good Bean that’s decently priced to buy say 10lbs of? I know everyone’s tastes are different but any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks again everyone!!!