☕ Coffee ☕: Ingredients, Roasting, Grinding, Brewing, and Tasting

[Kealia]

This box is spoken for.

No worries, I'm still a newb here and have a lot to learn. Plus, I just gave my wife her Behmor last weekend which came with the 8 1lb bean samples. Add to that the 3 I bought her to get started and the 5lbs that the naked cat guy sent me - she has a lot of roasting to do!

Thanks for putting the offer out there.

 

[jammin]

@kealia - thats awesome you finally gave her the Behmor. I know you've been holding out for a bit for her birthday I think it was? I'll be looking forward to hearing your thoughts on it how your coffee is tasting. My reckless suggestion would be to block out some time this weekend to roast all 8lbs of the sampler in afternoon and really get to know that piece of equipment. It will be a lot of coffee and probably take 4hrs or so but in my experience, marathon sessions like that really speed up the learning curve. Save that 5lbs of Banko from the Crown for afterwards and give it your best after using that sampler to get the hang of things. Thats a real special coffee; rarely have I had anything that good.


Speaking of interesting coffees... I'm very thankful Im flush with great beans or id hate myself in the morning for spending this much per pound.... still want some really bad though. LOVE me some Yemen coffee and the sorting/prep on this is like nothing I've heard of. I might have to grab 2lbs just because! I'd love to brew some espresso with it. Maybe even use it in a blend with some of that Banko Ethiopian from the Crown
https://www.roastmasters.com/yemenred.html

 

[jimyson]

I would be in for a share of a sack. Also, are you all doing any coffee exchanges here? I saw one that just happened in the FB group I am in but didn’t roast then. I’ll join the next but wondered if there is one here. Maybe something like the Fellowship of the Drink trades that I’m in here.

 

[BrewinHooligan]

Was discussing finally doing a bread machine roaster conversion with the wife. We have some unexpected funds coming in and she told me I should just buy a roaster. I have been wanting a Behmor but a buddy and I are talking about starting a small home based roasting business selling at farmers markets etc and building up to buying a dedicated full time space so curious if there is a roaster out there in the $1k range that will roast 3-4 1-2lb batches per hour or if such a machine is a pipe dream

 

[jammin]

@brewinhooligan - here is an interesting point to start in your search. caveat emptor
https://www.home-barista.com/home-r...r1-roasting-experience-t43465-40.html#p543286

 

[jammin]

@jimyson - we love to share bags/boxes of coffee here! make yourself @ home and I’m sure you’ll see something you like soon enough

 

[Inkleg]

Perhaps next round we should consider 2 boxes? Seems that there is always a couple people left out. It would be fun to see the whole crew take on the same bean sometime.

Yes, because I came late to the party this time.
I'm at work now enjoying a cup of the Berry Bomb Banko.
Great to see you and the misses enjoying the coffee Ron. Just let me know when your ready for a kitthen and we'll go see Judy. ��

 

[applescrap]

@jammin thanks for the response. No more so I mean a coffee that can stand up to the quality of that yirgacheffe konga. Some thoughts for cream and sugar would be nice for my wife to. She uses flavored coffee mate. I think it ruins the flavor of the Ethiopian so that's why I'm bringing it to my office to drink with my friend.

 

[BrewinHooligan]

@brewinhooligan - here is an interesting point to start in your search. caveat emptor
https://www.home-barista.com/home-r...r1-roasting-experience-t43465-40.html#p543286

That is an amazing looking machine, about the cost of what I would pay for a base model from Buckeye Roasters locally. I need to do a bit more research, but that looks a bit more user friendly and easier to fine tune, just a little more difficult to make the initial purchase and being overseas after purchase, customer support becomes an issue if there are any issues with the machine.

 

[jimyson]

Here is some Yirgacheffe I roasted today. This round I used the P3 auto after a 160F warmup. After 9:00 and a good browning, I went into P5 man to fc and then dropped it to P3 with a fast drum speed. I took it to fc end and cooled it with a fan in front of the roaster.

This is the most consistent roast that I’ve done yet. The flavors seemed to work so well with each other without any extremes. I’m definitely happy with it.

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[jimyson]

Was discussing finally doing a bread machine roaster conversion with the wife. We have some unexpected funds coming in and she told me I should just buy a roaster. I have been wanting a Behmor but a buddy and I are talking about starting a small home based roasting business selling at farmers markets etc and building up to buying a dedicated full time space so curious if there is a roaster out there in the $1k range that will roast 3-4 1-2lb batches per hour or if such a machine is a pipe dream

I’ve seen other query this and many times it seems like the best thing to do is to purchase (2) Behmor roasters and roast back to back with them. For $600, you can get started pretty easily and take the extra $400 and invest in beans.

 

[Kealia]

@kealia - thats awesome you finally gave her the Behmor. I know you've been holding out for a bit for her birthday I think it was? I'll be looking forward to hearing your thoughts on it how your coffee is tasting. My reckless suggestion would be to block out some time this weekend to roast all 8lbs of the sampler in afternoon and really get to know that piece of equipment. It will be a lot of coffee and probably take 4hrs or so but in my experience, marathon sessions like that really speed up the learning curve. Save that 5lbs of Banko from the Crown for afterwards and give it your best after using that sampler to get the hang of things. Thats a real special coffee; rarely have I had anything that good.

Good memory. Yes, it was her birthday and she is just giddy! Like this -->

I'm actually not able to drink coffee a lot. I deal with migraines and I'm supposed to stay away from caffeine, but I indulge every now and then. And I do taste everything she makes now.

She doesn't want to roast it all at once, but both her and I have been doing a lot of reading and watching of YouTube videos, reading forums, etc. to get familiar with all of the options/approaches and all of this (your) input is appreciated. She is saving the Ethiopian for when she has everything dialed in. There will be no experimenting on those babies. The coffee she made using those in the air popper was great, though (before she got the Behmor)!

Fortunately, I have my homebrewing to keep me busy and give me something (read: lots) to drink

If you, or anybody, knows of or comes across really good options for decaf beans I'll be very interested.

Happy Friday!

 

[BrewinHooligan]

I’ve seen other query this and many times it seems like the best thing to do is to purchase (2) Behmor roasters and roast back to back with them. For $600, you can get started pretty easily and take the extra $400 and invest in beans.

Not a bad idea at all

 

[jammin]

@jimyson

those look nice & light - just the way i like them. i've been mulling around knowing i should roast tonight but was going to put it off until tomorrow. now i'm all excited to go fire up my roaster & dial in a couple awesome roast! (..hopefuly haha)

 

[jimyson]

@jimyson



those look nice & light - just the way i like them. i've been mulling around knowing i should roast tonight but was going to put it off until tomorrow. now i'm all excited to go fire up my roaster & dial in a couple awesome roast! (..hopefuly haha)

Is it fired up yet? Haha

What do you roast with? What beans are you thinking?

I’m wanting to hit another batch of Daterra Bourbon Collection with this new method. I’m liking what it did with this batch. I’ll likely wait until mid week to hit it again.

 

[applescrap]

That is an amazing looking machine, about the cost of what I would pay for a base model from Buckeye Roasters locally. I need to do a bit more research, but that looks a bit more user friendly and easier to fine tune, just a little more difficult to make the initial purchase and being overseas after purchase, customer support becomes an issue if there are any issues with the machine.

Another idea is 2, 3, 4 or 5 bm hg setups. I've seen others do it too. With 3 roasters could roast 9 pounds an hour, all day, every day for very little expense and maintenance. I think the setup I saw had five. Then you could roast 15 lb an hour, all day, everyday, with very little maintenance and start up cost. This is my evil plan anyways. That being said if I was going to get serious and sell roasted coffee I would probably buy a very nice machine because you can only make as much money as coffee you have to sell. I also like the idea of maybe paying someone to use their roaster and that way you can do maybe up to 50 lb and have an expert there to help you. Sorry I don't know what I'm talking about but figured I'd offer my two cents.

 

[jimyson]

https://www.rkdrums.com/

 

[jammin]

roasted 2 batches of this Panama Natural. It roasted like a Brazilian coffee, incredibly fast. Seems like its low density. We'll see how it tastes...
https://www.roastmasters.com/elidanat.html


Drip roast:

Espresso roast:

Espresso 2:

 

[HarborTownBrewing]

You guys are killing me. I've been stuck with McCafe coffee these past few days.

 

[jimyson]

Now that’s a beautiful color, @jammin

 

[HarborTownBrewing]

I gave a friend some of the Ethiopia Konga and they said, "it's great! Smells like granola when I grind it, it's amazing"

Followed by...

"I'm saving it because I hate for it to be gone."

Booooooooo. The freshness...it escapes!!!

 

[TallDan]

Thanks again @jammin for doing the legwork on another royal split. We're going to need to start having others of us do it or start paying for it.

 

[Ruint]

My sample from Crown arrived today...pretty stoked about the Colombian....unfortunately the roasting won't happen until tomorrow evening. Also had a delivery from Sweet Maria's come in as well..22 lbs worth!!! Gonna be a whole bunch of roasting going on

 

[jammin]

^you gotta let us know how that Crown sampler turns out! that Colombian sounds like an incredible coffee. really wanted to try it

Thanks again @jammin for doing the legwork on another royal split. We're going to need to start having others of us do it or start paying for it.

no problemo. should be delivered by Friday (hopefully). I'm throwing in a little sample of my first roast. 22g - should be enough for 350g/12oz of brewing water..

This coffee is large beans but it takes on the heat quickly. I did charge a little on the higher side, but you can see how quickly it dried out. I would suggest starting off a little slower and then crank the heat & drop with a short development time to preserve the fruity flavors. You'll be able to tell more with the cupping roast I included.

said roast

@passedpawn @trickydick

 

[HarborTownBrewing]

Looks like baratza finally released the Sette 30,which is supposed to be capable of drip and espresso grinds. Their latest models allow for interchanging of burrs to better suit whatever your doing.

https://www.sweetmarias.com/product/sette-30-espresso-grinder-by-baratza

I'm going to sell my Encore and get one of these. Just a matter of when.

 

[jammin]

Looks like baratza finally released the Sette 30,which is supposed to be capable of drip and espresso grinds. Their latest models allow for interchanging of burrs to better suit whatever your doing.

https://www.sweetmarias.com/product/sette-30-espresso-grinder-by-baratza

I'm going to sell my Encore and get one of these. Just a matter of when.

I’ve been wanting this for a LONG time. The BG burr was put on hold after launch. I emailed baratza for more details. Like you, not a matter of if, but rather when before I get one.

 

[HarborTownBrewing]

Yep, I also had emailed Baratza back in June when they were supposedly going to release the Sette 30, but then they held it back because it wasn't ready.

The response they gave back was:
"We really have no date for introducing the Sette 30 as a brews grinder.

We are just in the process of designing a new burr. We could land on something quickly or more likely it might take several months."

So, I guess that's it now. The thing is, about 75% of what I grind is for Chemex, 15% for Drip, and 10% for espresso. It SOUNDS like the Sette 30 is a fantastic espresso grinder, so I think I will get it and also get the BG burr for my pour over needs.

Honestly, I've tweaked my Encore so it does a great grind for espresso, but this would be a great improvement, I'm sure. Plus this grinds FOUR TIMES faster than the Encore.

 

[jimyson]

Handground has a giveaway. It’s a copper grinder and pour over set. I use their grinder and like it. Works well for my budget. Anyway, here is the giveaway link. Just so you are aware, the link helps me get additional entries. I wasn’t notified of that when another person shared so thought I would warn you.

http://copper.handground.com/?ref=3055647479

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[jammin]

@jimyson - nice looking stuff, esp the kettle. I just got a V60 recently and I must say it’s the best dripper I’ve used. Can’t believe it took me so long to get on the band wagon. Grinder looks nice too - gear drive is really catching on lately it seems. I took my Orphan Espresso Lido 2 to Mexico recently and it worked great with the home roast I brought with it. i entered with your link to help your odds out!

@harbortownbrewing - baratza wrote me back today and said the full on drip focused Sette 30 is a good year out but it’s something they definitely want to do. I volunteered myself for field testing if needed

My new grinder came in the mail today - Kafatek’s Monolith Flat; it’s been on preorder for months. It features features 75mm Titanium Nitride coated burrs - the same ones used in Nuova Simonelli’s Mythos One grinder. I put my portafilter in the forks so you can how it looks in operation.

 

[Inkleg]

My new grinder came in the mail today - Kafatek’s Monolith Flat; it’s been on preorder for months. It features features 75mm Titanium Nitride coated burrs - the same ones used in Nuova Simonelli’s Mythos One grinder. I put my portafilter in the forks so you can how it looks in operation.

Damn! That's a little Mr. Roboto erotic!
Y'all are gonna force me into an espresso machine.