Irish Stout Ó Flannagáin Standard

[Grasslands]

Time to do both side-side and experiment!

Indeed. My LHBS has informed me that it might result in a more "roasty" oatmeal stout flavor, so we'll see how that goes.

My only hope is that I can get some high-res beer pron images once this is finished - at least as nice as O'Flannagain's!

 

[Grasslands]

Brewday this past Saturday went extremely well - as opposed to the last AG batch (which also happeend to be my first) - which went as bad as it possibly could go. It was a beautiful day in Tallahassee and the black & beautiful wort flowed freely from the MLT into the kettle. The only thing that went awry was me breaking my hydrometer after measuring my first runnings. Anyone know how to calculate what a 1.052 gravity for 2.5 gallons (first runnings) might mean? I ended up with just a little over 7 gallons preboil after the 2nd runnings - when my hydrometer fell to the floor. I'm assuming that my overall preboil gravity might drop a little from that first measurement, correct?

For the actual recipe, I ended up replacing my 1 lb flaked barley with 1 1/2 lbs of flaked oats. We'll see how this sucker turns out! I'm definitely itching to compare it to the original recipe the next time I brew.

One thing that is confusing me: my fermentation hasn't been as "vigorous" as others. I came up with a full 6 gallons with very little headspace in my BB and I was expecting a blow-off the entire time. Hasn't happened yet - maybe due to less amount of total fermentable sugars in the wort? Krauzen definitely looked tan & creamy though!

 

[Diesel48]

What temperature is everyone mashing at?

 

[Grasslands]

I mashed mine at 156-157 for 60 minutes.

 

[Diesel48]

Great, plan on brewing it this weekend. My first attempt at all grain.

 

[Diesel48]

Brewed this yesterday for my first all grain. It went really good. According to my calculations my efficiency was in the 80% range. My OG was 1.051, that shouldn't screw up the flavor of the beer to much right? If I continue to have high efficiencies do I need to adjust the grain bill?

 

[BrewNinja1]

If it ferments all the way out it will be a little stronger, but shouldnt be a problem. If you are consistantly at 80%, then yes you will have to adjust your grain bill. This is a great stout, you wont be dissappointed for your first AG =D

 

[eulipion2]

Just ordered ingredients for this one. I'm going to do Brew-In-A-Bag and No-Chill. I've read the whole thread, and while I haven't seen any mention of it, I was considering adding the hops as FWH in order to increase the bitterness and give a little more flavor and aroma. It seems like the biggest complaint on this recipe was the low bitterness, but I think that was primarily from a stylistic perspective, not an overall taste perspective.

So, thoughts on FWH vs hopping at (the no-chill equivalent of) the 60 minute addition?

 

[mjohnson]

I brewed this last night. I did a 3 gallon batch. Had a bit of trouble with my mash temps - ended up doing 10 minutes at 153 - added hot water to 156 after which it dropped over the hour to 153 again. I didn't preheat my tun as much as I usually do. *shrug* live and learn - it will still be beer.

Ended with 1.043. Wort tasted great. Looking forward to it.

 

[Dog House Brew]

Another question! What carb level should I shoot for when bottling this?

Good question, didn't see an answer. What carb level 2.5?

 

[Grasslands]

Good question, didn't see an answer. What carb level 2.5?

Since it's a stout, my suggestion is to go a little less than 5oz dextrose. (maybe 3.5-4oz)

Per John Palmer's book, you should shoot for 1.7 - 2.3 for porters/stouts.

 

[experiencehaze]

So I brewed this beer and the FG is 1.012. It has a nice flavor but the mouthfeel is like drinking water. Will this change once I bottle it? I was thinking of adding 8oz of lactose for a slight sweetness, cause I like my beers a little sweet, but mainly for a nice thick mouthfeel. Would maltodextrin give the beer a creamy texture? Half/half the lactose/maltodextrin?

For anyone that has brewed this beer, what would you recommend?

 

[Grasslands]

So I brewed this beer and the FG is 1.012. It has a nice flavor but the mouthfeel is like drinking water. Will this change once I bottle it? I was thinking of adding 8oz of lactose for a slight sweetness, cause I like my beers a little sweet, but mainly for a nice thick mouthfeel. Would maltodextrin give the beer a creamy texture? Half/half the lactose/maltodextrin?

For anyone that has brewed this beer, what would you recommend?

It most likely will change as it gets carbed up. Considering that the ingredients to brew it are fairly cheap, I'd first see how it goes after bottling without any of the additions you mentioned. If the mouthfeel still isn't as desired, then I'd suggest making some changes for the next batch you do. I think it's too early to worry about what the mouthfeel will be, especially considering you haven't bottled it yet.

 

[Dog House Brew]

So I brewed this beer and the FG is 1.012. It has a nice flavor but the mouthfeel is like drinking water. Will this change once I bottle it? I was thinking of adding 8oz of lactose for a slight sweetness, cause I like my beers a little sweet, but mainly for a nice thick mouthfeel. Would maltodextrin give the beer a creamy texture? Half/half the lactose/maltodextrin?

For anyone that has brewed this beer, what would you recommend?

What was your mash temp? Just curious

 

[wookiemofo]

I felt like the mouthfeel was a little light myself, but it's still an excellent stout. As mentioned, I'd wait until it carbs up... you'll still enjoy it.

I was going to brew it a second time and add oats to it to give that desired mouthfeel, but i decided to brew deception cream instead. I figure these two stouts will give me both ends of the spectrum for stouts I enjoy, then I can meld the two if I want.

But I've also only done 13 batches, so I really have no idea what I'm talking about!

 

[experiencehaze]

What was your mash temp? Just curious

I don't know exactly but I do know that it was on the lower end because I did this in the middle of the night when it was slightly chilly and my mash tun generally loses about 5* in an hour

 

[johnodon]

Enjoying a few pints today...

 

[Grasslands]

I kegged mine yesterday and a pre-carbed taste was fairly light on the mouthfeel side. I'll report back when this sucker gets fully carbed.

Smells wonderful though!

 

[Grasslands]

After my first go-round with force-carbing, I'd say this sucker is almost done carbing. Not quite there yet with the head retention, but it's getting there!

I had a pint last night and it tasted great! It could get a little thicker in the mouthfeel dept., but it still tastes great this early in the game. When the head does foam up, it looks beautiful. I'll be happy when that head stays there for a little bit.

 

[shecallsmeblue]

I brewed this up the other day, and the mash smelled fantastic. I have high hopes for this one, thanks for sharing the recipe!

 

[johnodon]

I had a pint last night and it tasted great! It could get a little thicker in the mouthfeel dept.,

I completely agree! I like my dark beers to be a little more chewy. Next time I brew this, I think I am going to add some Malto.

J

 

[Grasslands]

I completely agree! I like my dark beers to be a little more chewy. Next time I brew this, I think I am going to add some Malto.

J

I added a little crystal 60 to this, but no carapils - next time I might leave the C60 as is (.5 lbs) and add in 10-12 oz of carapils.

Had it again last night and it's getting better. I'm amazed at how much this beer matures in such a short amount of time. Definitely a keeper for me.

 

[Grasslands]

FYI, had two servings of this last night and I'll have to post pics soon - very, VERY tasty and mesmerizing to look at! I continue to be surprised at how much the profile improves over the course of little more than a week.

 

[iijakii]

I just cracked a bottle at only 3 days carbed since Im impatient and really needed a beer tonight.

Obviously not carbed, but the flavor is pretty solid for such a green beer. I'm not going to touch another for a good two weeks, pretty anxious now.

 

[Diesel48]

Took a bit of this off of my keg last night, it has been on gas 1 week now at serving pressure. Did not taste as heavy as some of the stouts I have had in the past. Is this considered a pretty light stout? The flavor was there, just though it would have been a little more in your face. I could easily give this dark beer to some one who only drinks lighter beers.

 

[iijakii]

Yeah mine seem way too light in the mouthfeel department, seems like others are having the same thing.

 

[Grasslands]

Finally got around to uploading pictures from my camera. Obviously, the OFS is on the left. On the right is a light version of Pliny the Elder.

 

[DavidSteel]

Just bought everything for this besides the hops. Do you guys think Willamette will be a decent substitute? I also have cascade, centennial, chinook, tettnanger, Saaz, and Nugget.

 

[Razorbrew]

This has been one of my favorites lately. I added cocoa to half my batch (kegged) and bottled the other half plain. Both are great.

 

[knuckledragger]

Sippin on a pint at this very moment. This was my second batch of brew and im stoked about how well it turned out! Only been in the bottle for 2 weeks and it's fantastic. Can't wait to see how much better it will be over the next couple weeks. Didn't have any carapils so I did 4oz of maltodextrin. Absolutely delicious!!