I have a yeast emergency. My liquid yeast won't start in a starter and I need to make a decision about how to save the batch in a few hours. I need some advice !
I'm brewing the Blue Moon clone described here:
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?p=250980&posted=1#post250980
My FIL bought me a Wyeast 3942 and brought it here from another city. It sat in a car overnight, but they are pretty sure it didn't freeze. The yeast was manufactured on August 4, 2006. I activated the pack at 1PM.
I sterilized 6 vials added 6ml of glyerine to each vial. I also made up a starter base, just like I have for numerous dry yeasts before. At 2:30PM I opened the yeast packet and added 15ml of activated yeast to each vial. The yeast packet had a very strong yeasty smell to it. We then poured the remainder of the yeast into the starter. We froze the vials.
At 6PM (5 hours later) there was absolutely no activity in the starter ! I thawed a vial and added it to the starter.
At 7PM there was absolutely no activity, so I made up another starter and thawed a second vial. I pitched it at 7:30. An hour later at 8:30 there is no activity in either starter.
In the mean time, I started the mash.
so...
a) Have I done something wrong with the starters ? Is liquid yeast slower to show fermentation signs than dry yeast ?
b) I want to salvage this brew. I have Morgan's dry ale yeast and Morgans dry lager yeast. I can get a packet of Nottinghams dry yeast tomorrow about noon. If I can't get a liquid starter to work, which dry yeast should I use for this brew ?
c) Is it worth trying another frozen vial ? I have 4 left. I was adding a couple teaspoons of sugar to a cup of water and boiling it in a microwave and then letting it cool. I tried yeast nutrient in the first starter and none in the second. I have no dry malt extract and nor have I ever used some for starters. Should I retry with dextrose for the starter base ?
Thanks
I'm brewing the Blue Moon clone described here:
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?p=250980&posted=1#post250980
My FIL bought me a Wyeast 3942 and brought it here from another city. It sat in a car overnight, but they are pretty sure it didn't freeze. The yeast was manufactured on August 4, 2006. I activated the pack at 1PM.
I sterilized 6 vials added 6ml of glyerine to each vial. I also made up a starter base, just like I have for numerous dry yeasts before. At 2:30PM I opened the yeast packet and added 15ml of activated yeast to each vial. The yeast packet had a very strong yeasty smell to it. We then poured the remainder of the yeast into the starter. We froze the vials.
At 6PM (5 hours later) there was absolutely no activity in the starter ! I thawed a vial and added it to the starter.
At 7PM there was absolutely no activity, so I made up another starter and thawed a second vial. I pitched it at 7:30. An hour later at 8:30 there is no activity in either starter.
In the mean time, I started the mash.
so...
a) Have I done something wrong with the starters ? Is liquid yeast slower to show fermentation signs than dry yeast ?
b) I want to salvage this brew. I have Morgan's dry ale yeast and Morgans dry lager yeast. I can get a packet of Nottinghams dry yeast tomorrow about noon. If I can't get a liquid starter to work, which dry yeast should I use for this brew ?
c) Is it worth trying another frozen vial ? I have 4 left. I was adding a couple teaspoons of sugar to a cup of water and boiling it in a microwave and then letting it cool. I tried yeast nutrient in the first starter and none in the second. I have no dry malt extract and nor have I ever used some for starters. Should I retry with dextrose for the starter base ?
Thanks