Will this cheap 3500 watt induction burner work?

[fbold1]

The question here was whether it was safe to run the 20a induction cooker on a 30a circuit. My response was basically, yes, assuming the induction cooker has its own fuse or breaker that will trip in an overcurrent situation above 20a, as the breaker will not protect it until it gets above 30a.

I was just agreeing with you in my own awkward way.

 

[trussell]

All equipment must have its own protective device, you certainly can't rely on the breaker in the main panel to protect each appliance that is connected to that circuit, it is sized to protect the wire. Lets say that you try connecting two 120 v. 1500 watt toasters to a 20 amp circuit, it will exceed the rating of the wire and trip the breaker.

Yes, breakers exist to protect the building wiring from overcurrent and thus over heating. They do not protect the devices connected to the wiring.

 

[jeffmeh]

Yes, breakers exist to protect the building wiring from overcurrent and thus over heating. They do not protect the devices connected to the wiring.

Unless, you have a device with wire and components rated to, say, 20a, on a 20a or less breaker, in which case it protects both. So I think it fair to say that a breaker must be sized correctly to protect the house wire, and that may or may not be sufficient to protect a specific device.

 

[borealis]

Anybody ever get the E03 error code? I finally wired up an extension cord to be able to plug into my dryer outlet and when I turn it on I get that code. The manual says "temporary voltage overload." I wonder if it something I did wiring or if plugging it into the dryer outlet is not going to work.

 

[Weezy]

Was there a pot on it when you got the code?

 

[borealis]

Yes.

 

[Weezy]

Eh, I thought I remembered getting that code w/o a pot. Maybe it was E08.
Do you get the code w/o the extension cord? If not maybe check you're handy work o. The cord.

 

[borealis]

Is there any way that the wiring of the extension cord could cause this? Or is it a problem inside the burner?

 

[AnOldUR]

Have a meter? Check voltage coming from the end of your extension plug. 120V from each hot to the ground socket. 240V across the hot sockets.

 

[borealis]

No, I unfortunately do not have a meter. Is that the best way to figure out what went wrong? I could probably get my hands on one.
What would be the cause of the error?

 

[IslandLizard]

+1 to the meter.
Harbor Freight nearby ($3-$7)? Or a friend or neighbor?

If there's no cookware on it, or it's not magnetic (enough) it keeps beeping when you turn in on. I have an 18/10 SS skillet that won't work.

 

[borealis]

Got it figured out! Thanks for the help. Tested it out and it worked great. Hoping to brew tomorrow!

 

[IslandLizard]

Got it figured out! Thanks for the help. Tested it out and it worked great. Hoping to brew tomorrow!

Well, what was the problem? Not just curious, it may help the next person to troubleshoot.

 

[borealis]

Great point. I followed the unclear, black and white directions that came with the plug I was wiring and accidentally put the ground wire in the wrong place. So the wiring was not properly aligned from one end to the other. I googled "wiring 220v extension cord" and there were a lot of useful images that were much more clear than the instruction sheet from the plug. Easy as that. Just wish I did it right the first time.

Maris otter / citra SMASH tomorrow...

 

[nutty_gnome]

So.. I've got a 16 inch diameter 10 gallon tri-clad pot that is magnetic. Do I need to build a U-shaped wooden frame to keep the weight of the pot off of the Avanti? How are people using these with larger pots? What diameter is so big that you can't reach the control buttons?

How long is the cord? The Spec sheet doesn't say....

 

[IslandLizard]

So.. I've got a 16 inch diameter 10 gallon tri-clad pot that is magnetic. Do I need to build a U-shaped wooden frame to keep the weight of the pot off of the Avanti? How are people using these with larger pots? What diameter is so big that you can't reach the control buttons?

How long is the cord? The Spec sheet doesn't say....

I have both 8 and 15 gallon pots that overhang by a few inches. They work fine without extra support. The pot actually rests on the stainless frame, not on the glass. I can still get to the controls.

The actual heating area from induction is about 6" in diameter, and spreads out from there.

Try empty or with a quart of water at a low setting, and check the outside bottom for blistering or discoloring (bluing) after a short period (10-20 seconds). Increase the wattage and repeat each time until you're confident the bottom is solid and good. One person showed a blister forming after a while. That was one isolated incident, probably a manufacturing fault.

 

[phyllobeddo]

Wow. Can't believe I haven't seen this thread yet. Or maybe I did and just forgot about it?! My memory is terrible at times seems like.

I bought an Avantco IC3500 a while back with intention to install it in the basement and brew in front of a window. I have a sub panel in the basement that is rated at 60 amps (per an electrician that was doing some work in the basement recently). Last week I bought 250' of 12/2 Romex to wire it out. I measured from the sub panel to the spot where I am going to install the 3500 and it's 73 feet. I plan to add a few 110 outlets at the same time, on a separate breaker, so I'm hoping the 250 ft of Romex will cover everything. Most of my basement is unfinished, so I can easily tack the wiring to the floor joists, with a staple gun maybe. Also, I still have to buy an outlet for the 3500 as well as a few feet of conduit for the run down the wall to the outlet. It's just a matter of finding time to do it at this point.

I started this thread a while back as well. https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f170/another-help-me-my-basement-brewery-thread-509359/

It seems that all my question may have been answered by reading this thread. I am in the process of reading this whole thread now, but it seems that I should be good with a 20A two pole circuit breaker, X number of feet of 12/2, and the appropriate outlet mounted on the wall with some conduit mounted on the wall as well. I plan to use a box fan for exhaust while I boil in front of the window. I'll just have to make some test runs to find out how well the exhaust fan plan works.

Any thoughts, considerations, or advice before I start hanging wire?

 

[tmendick]

So I finally got everything in order; pot, IC3500, 20a 240 breaker, and outlet. I turn it on for the first time and get a E03 error (voltage overload/overheating) right away. Any suggestions, or do I need to return this bad boy?

 

[IslandLizard]

So I finally got everything in order; pot, IC3500, 20a 240 breaker, and outlet. I turn it on for the first time and get a E03 error (voltage overload/overheating) right away. Any suggestions, or do I need to return this bad boy?

Start reading from here, a few posts above, followed by the solution a bit lower.

 

[tmendick]

Stupid search bar, I tried searching e03 and got no results, should have tried error. Thanks

 

[IslandLizard]

Stupid search bar, I tried searching e03 and got no results, should have tried error. Thanks

HBT should replace the search field with this direction:

Google > site:homebrewtalk.com <put your query here>​

Following along this format:

site:www.homebrewtalk.com e03​

gives you the answer in the 3rd result. That kind of accuracy and expedience even boggles my mind.

Looking a bit deeper, this is what the (online) manual tells us:

E03 Temporary voltage overl[o]ad. Cooker
became too hot. Let cooker cool down before restarting.​

Which makes no sense in above context.

I hope you have a meter and can check the 3 voltages on the outlet. Two hots and one ground. 120V between each hot and ground; 240V between 2 hots.

 

[tmendick]

Right, that's what I thought too.
I'm thinking my outlet is hosed, but not 100% how to test it with my multimeter. Do I go black to bottom ground and then test each of the two hot plugs to get 240 and 120with the red?

 

[IslandLizard]

Right, that's what I thought too.
I'm thinking my outlet is hosed, but not 100% how to test it with my multimeter. Do I go black to bottom ground and then test each of the two hot plugs to get 240 and 120with the red?

You're measuring AC, so there is no need for polarity on the meter. Make sure it's set to VOLT, AC, 250V or higher range.

Yes, the bottom should be ground. The 2 top spades both being hot, with voltage as I said above. (I edited that post heavily).

 

[tmendick]

I'm going to have my electrician friend check it out tomorrow, but I think we put the wrong outlet on the wrong breaker, we had 2 30a 120v and I think we mixed it up.

 

[tmendick]

Problem solved. I put one of the hots on the neutral on the breaker, oops glad it was something that simple though

 

[smugslug]

Has anyone got this sent to Canada? The site says that duties and taxes will be added after. Does anyone know what that will be?

 

[dkmitg]

This thread inspired me to go induction but u have two questions, read through the entire thread first and didn't catch the answers

1) I bought the 16 gal bayou classic 1044 stainless steel kettle and saw on another form that they are no longer induction ready. A magnet does not stick to it but I know it didn't for others yet still worked. Anyone buy one recently and have it not work?

2) That keg koozy seemed like it had superior insulation compared to the reflex wrap. The problem is they haven't made them since 2014. Any company that makes a similar product?

I'll know the first answer in a couple days when my induction cooker comes in and I will let you all know.

 

[chiefairwrench]

I just bought my bayou and it worked fine

 

[brettwasbtd]

I just bought my bayou and it worked fine

which model?

 

[chiefairwrench]

1064 classic