Vasoline on O-Rings, and now my QD is a pain to get on and off

[bracconiere]

given enough time make a QD difficult to remove from a keg post

I used to use vas on my o-rings, before i knew better..and reading this got me wondering, if maybe that's why one of my bev ball lock QDs is a real pain to get on and off?

Is there a way to clean it, or should i drop the few bucks on a new one?

probably been used with Buna o-rings with vas for 14 years!

 

[Dr_Jeff]

remove the o-ring , wipe the post with alcohol, to clean off the Vaseline, install the new o-ring, if it needs to lubricated, use keg lube, which is food grade silicone grease. Also wipe out the QD with an alcohol dampened paper towel or piece of cloth.

 

[dirkomatic]

Honestly, I'd replace all of the disconnects and o-rings.

 

[bracconiere]

remove the o-ring , wipe the post with alcohol, to clean off the Vaseline, install the new o-ring, if it needs to lubricated, use keg lube, which is food grade silicone grease. Also wipe out the QD with an alcohol dampened paper towel or piece of cloth.

so alcohol will clean the QDs? at this point for the three i'd need, think i'll just replace, they are still $5 a piece right? haven't been bundle with the yeast gouging yet? lol

i'll have to look....

(edit: stainless torpedo ones look cool for $15 a piece!)

Honestly, I'd replace all of the disconnects and o-rings.

0-rings already replaced, but i think i agree with new QDs also.....

 

[marc1]

I highly recommend the Haynes CIP Film Keg Lube. It melts under really hot water and can be cleaned off much easier than the regular style.

 

[dirkomatic]

at this point for the three i'd need, think i'll just replace, they are still $5 a piece right? haven't been bundle with the yeast gouging yet? lol

i'll have to look....

(edit: stainless torpedo ones look cool for $15 a piece!)



0-rings already replaced, but i think i agree with new QDs also.....

Or these:
$10.99 for 4 sets.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WS81W8D
Not sure where you see $15 for the Torpedos... Shipping might be through the roof on that.

Bobby sells some nice stainless ones for $17 plus reasonable shipping at brewhardware.com

 

[day_trippr]

It would be interesting to put a micrometer on the O-ring because I bet it has swelled.
I have very infrequently seen this and opted to replace the swelled rings - I'd say maybe three times in 16 years across 16 kegs and numerous ball lock posts doing fixture duty...

Cheers!

 

[Dr_Jeff]

Given the type of plastic that the QDs are made of, I seriously doubt that they changed at all, size wise.

 

[duffy5018]

Not sure where you see $15 for the Torpedos... Shipping might be through the roof on that.

Yakima Valley Hops has them for $15.99. So if you need a bunch of hops and want to upgrade to these, this is probably the way to do it.

 

[day_trippr]

I used to use vas on my o-rings, before i knew better..and reading this got me wondering, if maybe that's why one of my bev ball lock QDs is a real pain to get on and off?[...]

Look inside the QD with a bright light and see if you find a ring of deposited rubber inside.
It doesn't take much, either...

Cheers!

 

[bracconiere]

Not sure where you see $15 for the Torpedos... Shipping might be through the roof on that.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2826389482...rentrq:d3833c3d1790a45ac2816103ffe3e238|iid:1

Look inside the QD with a bright light and see if you find a ring of deposited rubber inside.
It doesn't take much, either...

Cheers!

i'm not sure i need a light, i can feel a ring with my finger!

 

[day_trippr]

That works, too

 

[bracconiere]

That works, too

never realized it was rubber, just thought the vas "firmed up", lol

 

[day_trippr]

That's where a light may be handy

 

[bracconiere]

anyone know if they make stainless pin lock liquid QDs, flare?

 

[day_trippr]

Someone does...not flare, though.

https://foxxequipment.com/product/disconnect-stainless-steel-pin-lock-1-4-barb-liquid-pr-5530/
and

https://foxxequipment.com/product/disconnect-stainless-steel-pin-lock-1-4-barb-gas-pr-5529/
Cheers!

 

[dirkomatic]

Someone does...not flare, though.

https://foxxequipment.com/product/disconnect-stainless-steel-pin-lock-1-4-barb-liquid-pr-5530/
and

https://foxxequipment.com/product/disconnect-stainless-steel-pin-lock-1-4-barb-gas-pr-5529/
Cheers!

Ugh... Want! All my kegs are pin lock and I'm jealous of everyone with the ball lock stainless disconnects! Although flare would be preferable. Not sure I'd buy the barbed ones.

 

[dirkomatic]

Ugh... Want! All my kegs are pin lock and I'm jealous of everyone with the ball lock stainless disconnects! Although flare would be preferable. Not sure I'd buy the barbed ones.

Double ugh! The are expensive... Looks like maybe a flare tailpiece would make it work, though:
https://www.draftsupply.com/sleeve-...ct-gas-07e04-367.html#PhotoSwipe1622754040859

 

[dirkomatic]

Double ugh! The are expensive... Looks like maybe a flare tailpiece would make it work, though:
https://www.draftsupply.com/sleeve-...ct-gas-07e04-367.html#PhotoSwipe1622754040859

If only @Bobby_M would make some, all would be right in the world

 

[bracconiere]

Double ugh! The are expensive... Looks like maybe a flare tailpiece would make it work, though:
https://www.draftsupply.com/sleeve-...ct-gas-07e04-367.html#PhotoSwipe1622754040859

can you spare me the "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" registration, and say how much they cost?

 

[day_trippr]

I can't find enough data on thost Foxx connectors to understand what's under the swivel nut.
But check this out. The Spousal Unit is calling dinner so gotta run but this looks....interesting?

https://www.draftsupply.com/socket-head-for-ss-pin-lock-disconnects-liquid-91e04-011.html

Cheers!

 

[Dr_Jeff]

It looks like one uses a beer nut and tailpiece with that.

 

[bracconiere]

holy on the same site....guess i don't need the price now,

https://www.draftsupply.com/pin-lock-disconnect-ss-14-vertical-barb-liquid-07e04-199.html

edit: this gave me a good laugh!

" Starting at $17/mo with Affirm. Prequalify now "

 

[Dr_Jeff]

It would be cheaper to convert your pin lock kegs to ball lock kegs.

 

[bracconiere]

It would be cheaper to convert your pin lock kegs to ball lock kegs.

i was just thinking the same.....

 

[Dr_Jeff]

Ugh... Want! All my kegs are pin lock and I'm jealous of everyone with the ball lock stainless disconnects! Although flare would be preferable. Not sure I'd buy the barbed ones.

I think pin lock kegs are better as one can only hook them up correctly.

 

[bracconiere]

I think pin lock kegs are better as one can only hook them up correctly.

not with flare fittings! where there's a will there's a way!

 

[Dr_Jeff]

I stand corrected, always a way to screw up.

 

[Buckeye_Hydro]

https://www.buckeyehydro.com/oring-lubricant-food-grade/

 

[dirkomatic]

It would be cheaper to convert your pin lock kegs to ball lock kegs.

That's insane. For the price of one set of stainless pin lock connectors, you could get two sets of stainless ball lock connectors and convert eight kegs. Have they ever sold any of these?

 

[NightFlight]

I've been hunting down leaks and I think I'm using pinlock o-rings on my ball lock posts. Dammit! I've been leaving my newly acquired expensive stainless steel disconnects off to maintain pressure and not go through somewhere around .5lb a day. OMG

Does vas cause shrinkage on buna? I wouldn't think so. I'm just using vas because to be honest I don't care for the price of the food grade silicone. Of course I say that after what seems hundreds of dollars sunk into draft gear.

 

[bracconiere]

Does vas cause shrinkage on buna? I wouldn't think so.

they all tell me, you want vas for silcone rings, and silicone grease for buna rings...

 

[NightFlight]

I've gone completely around the bend for quite some time trying to hunt down leaks (a year?). I finally identified what is going on.
This is me, testing my theory.

 

[bracconiere]

I've gone completely around the bend for quite some time trying to hunt down leaks (a year?). I finally identified what is going on.
This is me, testing my theory.

regulator leak....

 

[NightFlight]

regulator leak....

Nope. In fact when I attempted to return it under warranty, the retailer suggested I submerge it, which I did and that was settled. The regulator is not leaking. After I cut that video I threw the tank and regulator in the tub as well. No leaks.

Also note, if I leave the tank decoupled, you do not see that drop on the high side, the pressure will remain for days. That means the regulator is fine.

 

[NightFlight]

Actually, I made a supposition that it was a "lot" of Co2 going into the liquid. I suspect compressed gas is very springy, and once compressed to a point, doesn't take much more to show higher pressure. So when the high side drops quickly it doesn't mean there is lots to expand into the liquid. Of course shaking the keg when the gas is coupled and turned off, you see the high side immediately drop - since agitating the liquid allows it to accept Co2 much more easily.

 

[bracconiere]

well i've never had luck seeing bubbles. but i keep my cylinder on a scale, and can see if it loses even an ounce quickly....

and this is an uncarbed keg?

 

[bracconiere]

Also note, if I leave the tank decoupled, you do not see that drop on the high side, the pressure will remain for days.

with the cylinder shut off right?

 

[soccerdad]

Folks your age used Vaseline for everything. Never heard of new fangled stuff like K-Y, keg lube, or WD 40. Still have an ice box, I bet.

 

[bracconiere]

Folks your age used Vaseline for everything. Never heard of new fangled stuff like K-Y, keg lube, or WD 40. Still have an ice box, I bet.

just my beard is gray, definitely used a lot of WD40 in my time...and come on, you have to be old enough to remember hair spray flame throwers, and mixing pool acid and alluminum foil? cannon fuse, gun powder, in an empty co2 thing? ahhh!! the 80's!