alright this will be my build thread eventually but try to do all the figuring out before i jump into it. i'm going to build a two tier stand one pump set up, but i'm trying to think what will be best. figured i would ask the best group of knowledge i know. i have been looking at some of the commercial two tier stands Sabco's Brew Magic with the pump from HLT to MASH, and the Ruby Street Brew rig with the pump from Mash to Boil. what is the best set up or is it preferance. I was thinking about it and if the pump is set up at the HLT to the Mash it wouldn't require as much up keep on keeping it clean, where if its at the mash to the boil it will need broke down and cleaned every time. anyone with some input or giudance and advise are welcome here to learn all i can before building it so it is perfect from the star.