I'd certainly be in for a pound!
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McKBrew said:I was suprised to see a decent selection of hops at my LHBS at a reasonable price. I asked the owner how he managed to do it and he actually arranged a hop contract guaranteed to give him amounts approx equal to what he purchased last year. He still had some concerns, but didn't seem overly worried.
So if a small LHBS can arrange a hop contract, you'd think the big online guys could pull it off as well.
[email protected] said:Hops are in short supply due to demand for farmers to grow corn for fuel. They get more $$ for corn.
I don't think so. Some of the articles I've read have talked about farmers changing their hop fields over to corn.menschmaschine said:I think you're confusing hops with barley.
Kubed said:I don't think so. Some of the articles I've read have talked about farmers changing their hop fields over to corn.
Maybe not corn but Hop acerage world wideHaving spent some time in hop country I can say that this is not true. There has not been a large move to take hops out and replace them with corn
budbo said:Maybe not corn but Hop acerage world wide
has decreased significantly over the last decade
chione said:You are correct but it has nothing to do with corn. With the advent of hop storage technologies the price of the hops fell. Yakima growers got together and pulled acreage out to RAISE HOP PRICES. This whole corn ethanol thing is fad, do some reading and you'll find that it takes more energy to make ethanol from modern corn growing than it produces.
Another case of the man trying to keep a brother down.explosivebeer said:From what I've heard, it's actually switchgrass or some other ethanol-producing plant that is suddenly much more lucrative than hops for the Yakima growers. This is from a source who knows a ton about the brewing industry and I have no reason to question his knowledge. At the same time though, I have no first-hand proof. It is quite possible that the growers saw this as a win-win, getting government subsidies for the ethanol production and simultaneously making their hop crops more valuable by diminishing the supply.
I don't think much hops acreage has been replaced with corn. The corn price increase has been a very recent thing and the hops acreage decline has been going on much longer than that. In addition unless you are already a big corn farmer the cost of the equipment to grow and harvest the corn is going to make it unprofitable. I'm guessing more of that acreage was lost to development and perhaps to other crops.chione said:You are correct but it has nothing to do with corn. With the advent of hop storage technologies the price of the hops fell. Yakima growers got together and pulled acreage out to RAISE HOP PRICES. This whole corn ethanol thing is fad, do some reading and you'll find that it takes more energy to make ethanol from modern corn growing than it produces.
ilikestuff said:It's a conpiracy I tell you,...
McKBrew said:I think we should start one of those chain e-mails like the ones saying not to buy gas on a certain day. I think we should pick a week and not drink or buy any beer, brew anything, or buy any homebrewing related supplies.
Let's do it, next week! who is with me? Anyone? Anyone?
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1 Beer & Wine Filter BEER ITEMS PRICE LIST Effective: February 15, 2008
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3 Part Number Product Description Pack Size Price
4 DRY BREWERS YEAST and YEAST NUTRIENT
5 Nottingham Ale Danstar Nottingham Dry British Ale Yeast, 500gm block 500 gm $39.95 ea.
6 Mauribrew Ale Mauribrew Dry Ale Yeast #514, 500gm block 500 gm $28.95 ea.
7 Mauribrew Lager Mauribrew Dry Lager Yeast #497, 500gm block 500 gm $28.95 ea.
8 Safale S-04 Safale S-04 "London Ale" style Beer Yeast, 500gm block 500 gm $32.10 ea.
9 Safale US-05 Safale US-05 "California Common" style Beer Yeast, 500gm 500 gm $33.60 ea.
10 Saflager W-34/70 Safale S-04 "London Ale" style Beer Yeast, 500gm block 500 gm $53.70 ea.
11 SIHA Proferm Plus SIHA Proferm Plus Yeast Nutrient, 1kg foil block 1 kg block $27.50 ea.
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13 T90 HOP PELLETS - all are vacuum-packed at the farm under Nitrogen in a 5 LB foil bag
14 Hop - Bullion5 Bullion Hop Pellets, a/a 7.5% 5 lb bag $87.50/bag
15 Hop - Cascade5 Cascade Hop Pellets, a/a 4.1% & 4.9% 5 lb bag $94.40/bag
16 Hop - Centennial5 Centennial Hop Pellets, a/a 8.0% 5 lb bag $98.50/bag
17 Hop - Cluster5 Cluster Hop Pellets, a/a 6.3% 5 lb bag $79.40/bag
18 Hop - Fuggle5 Fuggle UK Hop Pellets, a/a 4.0% ---OUT OF STOCK--- 5 lb bag $78.50/bag
19 Hop - Galena5 Galena Hop Pellets, a/a 10.1% & 11.5% 5 lb bag $101.00/bag
20 Hop - Golding5 US Golding Hop Pellets, a/a 4.7% 5 lb bag $92.50/bag
21 Hop - Hallertau5 Hallertau US Hop Pellets, a/a 3.6% & 4.2% 5 lb bag $90.50/bag
22 Hop - N.Brewer5 Northern Brewer US Hop Pellets, a/a 7.7% 5 lb bag $94.40/bag
23 Hop - Nugget5 Nugget Hop Pellets, a/a 12.0% ---OUT OF STOCK--- 5 lb bag $101.00/bag
24 Hop - Perle5 Perle Hop Pellets, a/a 6.6% ---OUT OF STOCK--- 5 lb bag $89.50/bag
25 Hop - Saaz5 Czech Saaz Hop Pellets, a/a 3.5% 5 lb bag $80.50/bag
26 Hop - Tettnanger5 Tettnanger US Hop Pellets, a/a 3.0% 5 lb bag $42.95/bag
27 Hop - Willamette5 Willamette Hop Pellets, a/a 4.5% & 5.3% 5 lb bag $92.50/bag
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29 LEAF HOPS - all are vacuum-packed at the farm under Nitrogen in a 1 LB foil bag
30 LeafHop - Casc1 Cascade Leaf Hop, a/a 5.6% 1 lb bag $27.15/bag
31 LeafHop - Fuggle1 Fuggle UK Leaf Hop, a/a 4.0% 1 lb bag $16.20/bag
32 LeafHop - Willam1 Willamette Leaf Hop, a/a 6.6% 1 lb bag $27.15/bag
33 [Other Leaf and Pellet Hops available upon request... please ask]
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35 BEER STABILIZERS - SILICA XEROGEL, PVPP and IRISH MOSS
36 Becosorb 1000 Becosorb 1000 silica xerogel beer stabilizer 15 kg bag $75.75 ea.
37 Becosorb 2500 Becosorb 2500 silica xerogel beer stabilizer 20 kg bag $100.00 ea.
38 Divergan F BASF Divergan F polyvinylpyrrolidone (pvpp) beer stabilizer 30 kg drum $945.00 ea.
39 Whirlfloc T - 1kg Kerry Whirlfloc Tablets (Irish Moss Tablets) 1 kg jar $25.95 ea.
40 Whirlfloc T - 3kg Kerry Whirlfloc Tablets (Irish Moss Tablets) 3 kg jar $75.00 ea.
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42 FINING AGENTS
43 SIHA Potass Metabi SIHA Potassium Metabisulfite, ultra pure stabilizing grade 1 kg block $4.90 ea.
44 SIAH Potass Sorbate SIHA Potassium Sorbate, ultra pure stabilizing grade 1 kg block $14.90 ea.
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46 DIATOMACEOUS EARTH
47 DE - FP4 Celatom DE, Grade FP-4 (offset to Dicalite SpeedFlow) 50 lb bag $22.00 ea.
48 cardboard box (to ship single bags by courier)… please ADD -------> $5.00 ea.
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50 SIX-PACK RINGS & KEGS
51 Rings Perf-pak extra narrow size #2 six pack rings; 3,000/roll 3,000/roll $195.00 ea.
52 Kegs-20L Stainless 20L Pepsi kegs, reconditioned and guaranteed each $55.50 ea.
McCall St. Brewer said:Look at it this way: if the shortage really gets bad, then you'll just end up brewing the same way Anheiser Busch does-- no hops at all. You'll be brewing just like the big boys!
Hopefully it follows the typical cycle:the_bird said:I don't know if people have noticed, but it seems like most varities are now available, at least in pellet form and at high prices, from the big retailers. Still very little for whole hops, but if you're desperate that you need a particular type of hop, might not be a bad time to grab some.
BierMuncher said:~ A temporary overlap in suppliers creates a glut and the pricing pendulum swings.
~ Prices deteriorate to "give away" levels, as the market attempts to balance inventories.
*** and then ***
We all go back to brewing IIPA's with 2 pounds of hops per 10-gallon batch..
Denny's Evil Concoctions said:I'ts not corn it's grapevines. You can make a lot mor emoney in Yakima valley off vines than hops. For years growers have been complaining about not getting enough for hops.
There is a hop shortage and some distributers are hoarding to make more profit. An honest distrubuter I know told me prices will likey climb a bit further over the next 3-4 months then drop down to about what they are today and stay there for a bout 2-3 years, with shortages of certain varieties. One problem is lower than normal alpha content in a lot of varieties.
http://beerandwindfilter.com
Talk to Bob and tell him Denny sent you.
SuperiorBrew said:I just talked to Bob, he said the FDA is giving him problems shipping to the US they get $60 just for the inspection fee and then higher duties and taxes due to the FDA classifying it as a food product. He is making some calls but it doesn't sound too promising for US shipping.
McCall St. Brewer said:I was just looking at the Northern Brewer site and was aghast at their hops prices. I don't think I'll be buying any hops from them for awhile.
the_bird said:Where you going to buy them from, then?
I'm more and more thankful that I've got enough stockpiled to get me through the year.
Denny's Evil Concoctions said:Problem for me is that I don't know how long I'll be living here. Kinda hard to bring your hop plants with you.
5lb bullion and 5lbs tett finally arrived today. yay!
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