blacklab said:Then it would be powered by fossil fuels at night, and the sun(somehow) during the day. 50% savings.
Although I think you knew that?
Yeah, no chance of energy storage for night time for a 100% savings.
blacklab said:Then it would be powered by fossil fuels at night, and the sun(somehow) during the day. 50% savings.
Although I think you knew that?
blacklab said:Then it would be powered by fossil fuels at night, and the sun(somehow) during the day. 50% savings.
Although I think you knew that?
PeteOz77 said:They reckon here in Aus, that the pay back is less than 2 years
wihophead said:You are going to be pretty disappointed when you find out it will be more like 20 years, maybe 10 if you are lucky and your government gives credits like here in the states. Oh and batteries are recyclable....
By the way the company I work for is the largest producer of solar power in the state of Wisconsin.....here is a news clip
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=621172
PeteOz77 said:WOW! I just had a look and the Fed Gov will pay me $8 per watt of capacity of the panels if I buy them. A 175 Watt panel here costs $1390. If the Gov rebates me $8 per Watt, then I MAKE $10 on every panel I buy! Minimum of 425 Watts, Maximum of 1KW
Obviously there are other costs involved, but free solar panels has to be a good start!
blacklab said:T The laws of thermodynamics(I think) say it is impossible to extract energy from a material without destroying that material! Energy within a closed system cannot be created or destroyed, only converted. Corn is just another vehicle for the net amount of energy available on Earth. How about solar power? The sun is free!
I'm not saying that solar is the end all solution, but it seems even partial utilization would lighten the burden on our constrained resources.
+1, When I was building my house about 5 years ago, I worked in the DC power industry. More exactly, I installed battery back up systems for a company that was a vendor to ALL the phone companies (that's why your phone works when the power is out). I was all for saving money, and being self reliant by going solar.wihophead said:You are going to be pretty disappointed when you find out it will be more like 20 years, maybe 10 if you are lucky and your government gives credits like here in the states. Oh and batteries are recyclable....
By the way the company I work for is the largest producer of solar power in the state of Wisconsin.....here is a news clip
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=621172
EdWort said:A very interesting article on the ethanol BS. Facts gleened from it are....
Ethanol contains water that distillation cannot remove.
It takes 450 pounds of corn to produce the ethanol to fill one SUV tank.
It takes more than one gallon of fossil fuel -- oil and natural gas -- to produce one gallon of ethanol.
It takes 1,700 gallons of water to produce one gallon of ethanol.
I cannot believe we've been suckered into this BS and now are paying for it via taxes, higher food prices, higher malt prices, and higher gas prices.
I hope you're kidding. Americans aren't going to change their habits, they'll just fill up RIGHT before the week starts and fill back up immediately after it's over. "Big Oil" will still get their money. Anyone who thinks otherwise clearly hasn't thought it through.Willy Boner said:So are you going to observe "Earth Hour"? What a show. How about if everyone in America doesn't buy gas for 1 week, See how the gas prices go then.
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