Tasty's Janets Brown ??

[KoedBrew]

So I am making Janet's Brown tomorrow...
I will split 5 gallons into 2 different fermenters with starters made for each

In one I will add Wyeast 1272 Am Ale 2
In the other White labs Australian Ale Yeast

What do you think of the yeast?? Not WLP 001, but what I had at home...

10 Gallons
20lb Pale Malt 2-Row
2.25lb Carapils
2.25lb Crystal 40
1.5lb wheat
.75lb Chocolate Malt

Hops
First Wort - 1.5oz Northern Brewer
60 Min - 1.75oz Northern Brewer
15 Min - 1.25oz Northern Brewer
10 Min - 2.0 oz Cascade
0 Min - 2.5 oz Cascade


Hops? It calls for like 4 ounces of Northern Brewer (I have 2) and 4.5 of Cascade...
I got the cascade covered, any substitute suggestions for the NB?
I was actually thinking of switching Amarillo for Cascade??

 

[elproducto]

My favorite recipe ever. I only use cal ale yeast, but you really want the hops to pop in this one.

 

[jfowler1]

So I am making Janet's Brown tomorrow...
I will split 5 gallons into 2 different fermenters with starters made for each

In one I will add Wyeast 1272 Am Ale 2
In the other White labs Australian Ale Yeast

What do you think of the yeast?? Not WLP 001, but what I had at home...

10 Gallons
20lb Pale Malt 2-Row
2.25lb Carapils
2.25lb Crystal 40
1.5lb wheat
.75lb Chocolate Malt

Hops
First Wort - 1.5oz Northern Brewer
60 Min - 1.75oz Northern Brewer
15 Min - 1.25oz Northern Brewer
10 Min - 2.0 oz Cascade
0 Min - 2.5 oz Cascade


Hops? It calls for like 4 ounces of Northern Brewer (I have 2) and 4.5 of Cascade...
I got the cascade covered, any substitute suggestions for the NB?
I was actually thinking of switching Amarillo for Cascade??

I've never used it in practice, but somewhere along the line, I heard that Glacier is a great substitute for NB.

Also, don't take this the wrong way, but what you posted as the recipe is some weird blend of a 10 gallon batch and a 5 gallon batch, but not quite either one. If it is tweaked for your tastes, that is a different story, but for someone looking to duplicate JBA, you are a bit off.

I just brewed JBA this weekend, and I am working from memory, so apologizes if this is at all inaccurate (but I have a fairly good memory.)

Here is an old Pro Mash File, but I am certain the recipe given in BCS is slightly different. I go with the BCS version. Also, Tasty told me he now does a hot whirlpool for that zero minute addition on the imperial version of JBA, so to carry that same technique over to this recipe, you can anticipate 15% utilization for the zero minute addition (in other words - more "hoppyness" than the recipe and calculations may indicate).

Here is an older version, and different than what I will shoot out from memory.
http://beerdujour.com/Recipes/Jamil/American_Brown_Ale_-_2004_AHA_Gold_Medal_.html

For a 5 Gallon Batch

OG - 1.066
FG - 1.014
SRM ~ 23
IBU ~ 65

Malt
2-Row Pale Malt (adjusted to your efficiency for 1.066 OG - I think I used about 9 pounds)
1 lb, 4 oz - US Caramel 40
1 lb, 4 oz - US Carapils
1 lb - US White (malted) Wheat
8 oz - UK Chocolate

Mashed at 154

Hops
1 oz NB as mash hop (I made this a FWH so I could use the spent grain for dog treats)
1.25 oz NB at 60
1 oz NB at 15
1.5 oz Cascade at 10
1.5 oz Cascade at 0
2 oz Centennial as Dry Hop

Fermented with WLP001 @ 67, carbonated to 2-2.5 Vols CO2.

All that aside, I think the Amarillo would be a very nice sub for the Cascade, and I personally sub out the WLP001 for WLP007, so your yeast changes could be interesting as well.

Good luck, it is a great beer to brew.

Joe

 

[duckmanco]

I saw a post on another board that tasty frequents, and he posted that Columbus was/is an acceptable substitute for northern brewer. I used that hop, adjusted for ibu's, and the beer came out great.

 

[PseudoChef]

Are you splitting 10 gallons into 2x 5 gallon batches or are you splitting 5 gallons into 2x 2.5 gallon batches?

 

[HopHead24]

That very recipe was my first All Grain batch a few months ago. The hops seem a little off on your original post. This beer got better after a month in the keg. Only about 1/2 gallon left. Time to brew it up again with more hops.

 

[KoedBrew]

@ Jfowler I am doing 10 gallons and my percentages on Promash are almost the same as that 12 gallon batch you posted, which I think is where I got my recipe?
I used percentages not actual pounds. My carapils is a bit different but not by much?

As for the Hops the amounts I gave came out to 67 IBUs which I have read Tasty's is about 66 when he makes it...So again I went by IBUs and not ounces of hops.

As for the yeast I didn't have any WLP001 on hand and didn't feel like spending the money when I have a bunch of Yeast in the fridge. It may change it a bit, but I don't think it will by much??

 

[KoedBrew]

10 gallons into two 5 gallon carboys

 

[jfowler1]

@ Jfowler I am doing 10 gallons and my percentages on Promash are almost the same as that 12 gallon batch you posted, which I think is where I got my recipe?
I used percentages not actual pounds. My carapils is a bit different but not by much?

As for the Hops the amounts I gave came out to 67 IBUs which I have read Tasty's is about 66 when he makes it...So again I went by IBUs and not ounces of hops.

As for the yeast I didn't have any WLP001 on hand and didn't feel like spending the money when I have a bunch of Yeast in the fridge. It may change it a bit, but I don't think it will by much??

Ok - I'll go with that. Using percentages will skew things a bit, and I am sure it will make no huge difference for the base%, carapils, C40, or maybe even the wheat. Also, hops vary a lot by AAU, so you could be perfectly fine with what you set up. I wasn't saying yours couldn't come out good, it was just an interpretation of the recipe I never saw before. Thanks for explaining how you came up with that.

I still might double check your contribution from the Chocolate malt. An ounce or to one way or the other will throw the recipe. I just think it looks a little low, considering the "5 Gallon batch" - which for me is 26 qts pre boil, and 22 qts post boil, uses 8 ounces of chocolate. Either I use too much, or you are using too little - maybe both. Regardless, the chocolate is a key component.

Again, good luck on brew day.

 

[KoedBrew]

Thanks
I will check that out on the chocolate malt. I am not saying mine is "right," Just saying how I got it...
I have 2 lbs of chocolate malt so l could increase it??

 

[Acoma]

Anyone ever tried adding brown sugar to this recipe? Another thread said it tasted a lot like Wilco Tango Foxtrot of Lagunitas. I had one last night and for some reason I kept thinking I tasted a little brown sugar. I plan on making this for my next batch but was wondering if I should add a little brown sugar to it. What do you guys think? If I do how much for a 5 gallon batch and when should I add it? Sorry to hijack koedbrew but didn't think a whole new thread was necessary.

 

[firebird400]

I would also use Amarillo instead of Cascade on this one, for sure

 

[elproducto]

I would also use Amarillo instead of Cascade on this one, for sure

Why, the original doesn't have it? Tasty's recipe is perfect as is, IMHO.

I would brew the original before you make hop subs.

 

[KoedBrew]

I used the 1272 yeast and the Aussie ale yeast...
I will never use that Aussie ale yeast again, it was horrible, bad taste flocculated into chunks after kegged, The batch with 1272 was good.

 

[firebird400]

Why, the original doesn't have it? Tasty's recipe is perfect as is, IMHO.

I would brew the original before you make hop subs.

Its just that I have yet to make a good batch of beer using Cascade, still all other beer I have made is great IMO and others.

There is something about Cascade I don´t like, or at least the once I have (only have from that one buy)

But I love Amarillo, smooth citrus where as my Cascade is harsh citrus, and has even a slight metallic feel in the mouth.

I make an awesome all-Amarillo Rye Pale Ale, it ROCKS