Im sorry if anyone dissagrees but when I think of a bar/pub/tavern I see a bunch of guys half hidden behind smoke when you walk in. I know that smoking isnt very PC anymore but that is a bar. Since the smoming ban in my state it is nice to be able to breath while having a bottle or pint but it still doesnt feel right. According to my state a private club can still have smoking if the members agree to it, when one of them feels uncomfortable then all the smokers will either snuff their cigs or take it outside. I am currently in a bar which will remain nameless because of the activity which is a "bar" not just a drinkin establishment. It is refreshing to smell the smoke, feel the rowdiness, hear the actual jukebox and jave the barkeep have a refill ready before you get back to the bar. I guess im starting to ramble and mumble so end of rant, am I the only one?