Smoked Malts & Mash PH - Bru'n Water

[Unicorn_Platypus]

Hi Folks! I'm putting together a recipe for a smoked IPA. Any idea how these would impact mash PH. How would I enter the below two malts in Bru'n Water? Would I just use base malt for the Rauch Malt & wheat malt for the smoked wheat?

https://www.morebeer.com/products/weyermann-rauch-malt.html
https://www.morebeer.com/products/viking-smoked-wheat-malt.html
@mabrungard - any suggestions?

Cheers!

 

[mabrungard]

I haven’t found that the smoke phenols change the mash pH. Base your pH estimate upon the grain color.

 

[Unicorn_Platypus]

I haven’t found that the smoke phenols change the mash pH. Base your pH estimate upon the grain color.

Wow...That was a quick reply. Thanks Martin!

This is going to be a weird beer for sure. Who knows how it'll turn out, but at least my PH will be spot on!

Cheers!

 

[AlexKay]

Anecdotally, when I’ve used smoked grains they’ve lowered the pH quite a bit. But the smoked malts I use are very smoked, and fairly dark. Weyermann rauch and smoked wheat are much lighter; I’ve never used Viking.

 

[AlexKay]

Just tell me you’re planning on Cascade instead of Citra. Fruity hops and smoke wouldn’t work for me at all.

 

[Unicorn_Platypus]

Anecdotally, when I’ve used smoked grains they’ve lowered the pH quite a bit. But the smoked malts I use are very smoked, and fairly dark. Weyermann rauch and smoked wheat are much lighter; I’ve never used Viking.

that makes sense! I think Viking & Weyermann smoked wheat are similar, btw

 

[Unicorn_Platypus]

Just tell me you’re planning on Cascade instead of Citra. Fruity hops and smoke wouldn’t work for me at all.

I'm brewing a beer called "Fuming Incense Stenchure" (its a line from the Frank Zappa song "Camarlillo Brillo")

Its going to be a very weird one

I want the beer to have a the vibe of a bunch of hippies in a drum circle at a campfire smoking something dank while schwillin a tasty IPA

I'm going to use Papazian's yeast WLP1983 & ferment it very cool.

For hops, I'm going to mostly use Amarillo, but with a small touch of Mosaic & Chinook for Dankness.