shaundesjardins
Well-Known Member
Hi everyone. I'm looking for a pretty straight forward amber ale recipe kinda like Rogues American amber.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
Any ideas?
Thanks!
I don't agree with what you say about the hops, nor does the BJCP. Other than that nice article.
West Coast versions tend to have more intense hop character and be more heavily tilted towards hop flavors than East Coast versions, which are often more balanced.
HOPS As with the grist, choose only domestic hops varieties in AAA. Most commercial examples use one or a blend of the "Big C"s - Cascade, Chinook, Centennial - as part of the defining character.
Low to moderate hop aroma from dry hopping or late kettle additions of American hop varieties. A citrusy hop character is common, but not required.
Moderate to high hop flavor from American hop varieties, which often but not always has a citrusy quality.
BJCP said:American hops, often with citrusy flavors, are common but others may also be used.
Wiki said:Avoid domestic varieties based on European ancestors (Willamette is a Fuggle cultivar, as Liberty is Hallertau).
In my article, I advise brewers to use distinctively American hops varieties because the style is distinctly American. If you brew AAA with Kent Goldings, it ain't AAA. If you brew AAA with Saaz, it ain't AAA. It might still be Amber Ale, but it isn't American Amber Ale. Willamette is an American variety, but its flavor is - in my opinion, mind - not sufficiently distinctly American.
BP and Choco malt will certainly add character and make it unique! Never mind it becomes a Porter; it's still legal under the American Amber Ale BJCP description according to the Conroe Interpretation Method!May also contain specialty grains which add additional character and uniqueness.
P.S. Interesting that you think Bud American Ale fails. Which Cascades do you think they're dry-hopping with? Argentine? How else does it fail? American malts? Check. American hops for flavor/aroma? Check. Clean, low-ester yeast? Check.
Never mind it becomes a Porter; it's still legal under the American Amber Ale BJCP description according to the Conroe Interpretation Method!
I don't know what your problem is. This is simple reading comprehension I learned in the third grade. Others may be used means just that.
Yes, I do. For the reasons in my article and explained just above.Saaz, Willamette, even Palisades fail by your own words. You say to avoid them.
Weird that their own marketing materials don't list any of the above, but do list Cascades from the Pacific Northwest. It's on the front page of the Budweiser American Ale website, fer Crissakes.AB does not agree with you either. I really can't tell that there are any Cascades in it any way. It must be like an 1/8 once to five gallons or less.
Now your just being a smart ass. Go and tastes some ambers and if your taste buds are as good as mine you will taste small quantities of some of the dark malts. Not enough to make it a Brown ale, but there none the less. You will find them even in some Pale ales.
I know my writing skills may be lacking, but my reading comprehension is much better than that of your own.
Here's a simple recipe for Shaun:
A ProMash Recipe Report
BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
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10-B American Ale, American Amber Ale
Min OG: 1.045 Max OG: 1.060
Min IBU: 25 Max IBU: 48
Min Clr: 10 Max Clr: 17 Color in SRM, Lovibond
Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (Gal): 5.50 Wort Size (Gal): 5.50
Total Extract (Lbs): 6.50
Anticipated OG: 1.051 Plato: 12.52
Anticipated SRM: 12.1
Anticipated IBU: 38.8
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Grain/Extract/Sugar
% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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3.8 0.25 lbs. Crystal 120L America 1.033 120
3.8 0.25 lbs. Crystal 90L America 1.033 90
84.6 5.50 lbs. Briess DME- Gold America 1.046 8
7.7 0.50 lbs. Crystal 40L America 1.034 40
Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.
Hops
Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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0.75 oz. Centennial Pellet 9.00 30.1 60 min.
1.00 oz. Cascade Pellet 5.75 8.6 20 min.
1.00 oz. Cascade Pellet 5.75 0.0 0 min.
Yeast
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DCL Yeast US-05 SafAle US Ale
I've brewed something similar to this many times, and think you'll have success with it!
Cheers,
Bob
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