Recipe Help-Pale Ale

[Schenkel]

I am developing my first recipe and would love some feedback. I have never done anything but kits before!

I am shooting for an American Pale Ale with a citrusy finish through a Partial Mash Process. 5 gallons.

3 lbs light LME
2 lbs light DME
2.5 lbs American 2-row Pale
.5 lbs Carmel - 20L
.25 lbs Carmel - 80L

.5 oz Summit (18.5%)- 60 minutes
.5 oz Nelson Sauvin (12 %) - 10 minutes
1 oz Cascade (6%) - Dry hopped

White Labs California Ale WP001


Any thoughts and recommendations would be appreciated!

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Updated Recipe with Stats:

3 lbs light LME
2 lbs light DME
2.5 lbs American 2-row Pale
.5 lbs Carmel - 20L
.25 lbs Carmel - 80L

.5 oz Summit (18.5%)- 60 minutes
.5 oz Nelson Sauvin (12 %) - 15 minutes
.5 oz Cascade (6%) - 5 minutes
1.5 oz Cascade (6%) - Dry hopped

White Labs California Ale WP001

Estimated:
OG-1.058
FG-1.014
ABV- 5.9%
IBU-35.3

 

[bferullo]

Looks good to me. Never heard of the Nelson Sauvin hops. Do you have an IBU number and expected gravities.

 

[Yooper]

I like it! I'd consider moving the nelson sauvin to 15 or 20 minutes, another cascade (or nelson sauvin) addition at 5 minutes or 1 minute, in addition to the dryhops. Otherwise, I wouldn't change it at all!

 

[Boleslaus]

I agree with Yooper. She's always promoting adding more late hop additions...and who doesn't like that! Moving the current 10 min addition to 15/20 and additing a late hop addition will give you more flavor and aroma. Should be great, especially for your first recipe.

 

[scottland]

More late hops. Do 1/2oz at 10min, 1/2oz at 5min, and 1/2oz of 0min. Use whichever hops you like for those additions.

Recipe looks nice otherwise.

 

[joetothemo]

Some people report onion when bittering with Summit. Not me, but some people.

BTW, in my mind, this beer will end up a lot like Widmer Bros Drifter. Is that the inspiration?

 

[Tinga]

+1 for later hop addition.

 

[jerryalan]

Quick question: Why use LME and DME in the same recipe? Do you get different characteristics in the beer?

 

[passedpawn]

Quick question: Why use LME and DME in the same recipe? Do you get different characteristics in the beer?

Good question, and one I had a little while ago. Here are the responses I got.
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f37/why-both-lme-dme-234409/

 

[Boleslaus]

Some people report onion when bittering with Summit. Not me, but some people.

BTW, in my mind, this beer will end up a lot like Widmer Bros Drifter. Is that the inspiration?

I just used Summit for the first time in my IPA. Used it at 60 and DH and no onion, just delicious fruity notes.

 

[jerryalan]

Good question, and one I had a little while ago. Here are the responses I got.
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f37/why-both-lme-dme-234409/

Thank you! Some very good points there.

 

[Schenkel]

Thanks for all the input! Definitely going to add some more late hops. Yes the Widmer Drifter was my inspiration. I love citrusy ales! I prefer IPAs (if you are in Portland, try Amnesia's Desolation IPA-Fantastic), but i wanted something that i could introduce to new craft beer drinkers without overwhelming them!

I will be posting soon with a stout recipe-not much of a stout drinker myself, but trying to get my stout-drinking brother hooked on home brewing!

 

[Schenkel]

Updated Recipe with Stats:

3 lbs light LME
2 lbs light DME
2.5 lbs American 2-row Pale
.5 lbs Carmel - 20L
.25 lbs Carmel - 80L

.5 oz Summit (18.5%)- 60 minutes
.5 oz Nelson Sauvin (12 %) - 15 minutes
.5 oz Cascade (6%) - 5 minutes
1.5 oz Cascade (6%) - Dry hopped

White Labs California Ale WP001

Estimated:
OG-1.058
FG-1.014
ABV- 5.9%
IBU-35.3

 

[Tinga]

Updated Recipe with Stats:

3 lbs light LME
2 lbs light DME
2.5 lbs American 2-row Pale
.5 lbs Carmel - 20L
.25 lbs Carmel - 80L

.5 oz Summit (18.5%)- 60 minutes
.5 oz Nelson Sauvin (12 %) - 15 minutes
.5 oz Cascade (6%) - 5 minutes
1.5 oz Cascade (6%) - Dry hopped

White Labs California Ale WP001

Estimated:
OG-1.058
FG-1.014
ABV- 5.9%
IBU-35.3

looks great. you planning on doing a yeast starter?

 

[Schenkel]

looks great. you planning on doing a yeast starter?

No, i was planning on doing a liquid yeast. Not sure i want to chance a yeast starter yet.

 

[Tinga]

Save the money and us us-05 same yeast strain except its cheaper and you get more cells than a liquid strain.

 

[scottland]

Save the money and us us-05 same yeast strain except its cheaper and you get more cells than a liquid strain.

^^^ bingo. Safale US-05 is the same strain as WLP001 and WYeast 1056. One package of Dry yeast contains roughly double the amount of yeast cells as a liquid vial or smack pack. And it's cheaper.

 

[Schenkel]

good to know! thanks

 

[beerandloathinginaustin]

From my limited experience with Nelson so far, I like it a lot. It has played very nicely with Citra & Amarillo. If this were my pale I'd up the 60 min addition a little and hit the end with a couple more ounces of flavor hops.

Try Widmer's Nelson Sauvin Imperial IPA if you'd like a better idea of Nelson's characteristics or want to get a little more comfy with the idea of using a larger amount of it for flavor & aroma.