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Another view from the southern promontory looking north from Lighthouse Point, Eleuthera, Bahamas. I once walked the length of that beach getting a total tan :D

Sadly, The Mouse now owns the entire Point for use as a cruise adventure location. Nobody really knows what that means but along with the cruise boat pier and a whole bunch of day use infrastructure the presumption is the public will no longer have access to the beach or Point...which will suck.
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day_trippr said:
Another view from the southern promontory looking north from Lighthouse Point, Eleuthera, Bahamas. I once walked the length of that beach getting a total tan :D

Sadly, The Mouse now owns the entire Point for use as a cruise adventure location. Nobody really knows what that means but along with the cruise boat pier and a whole bunch of day use infrastructure the presumption is the public will no longer have access to the beach or Point...which will suck.
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That sounds as bad as Larry Ellison (Oracle's Founder) buying an entire Hawaiian island for himself.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/14/see...and-larry-ellison-bought-for-300-million.html
 
The whole cruise company buying day destination thing has become a puzzling problem for the Bahamas.

On the one hand, the Bahamas economy outside of Nassau and Grand Bahamas is checkered at best. Eleuthera, Cat Island, Exuma, Long Island - outside of tourism there isn't much going on, given the very small populations on these islands the native economies aren't enough to keep youngsters from leaving.

On the other hand, the cruise lines have been clearly exploitive in their deals, and historically their promises of employing natives has been close to a complete lie. The companies bring in most of the construction workers and equipment. Later - as these are day destinations - when the cruise ship pulls up most of the on shore tasks are handled by ship crew. So there's hardly any chance of long term employment for islanders.

About the only people that make out are the original land holders, usually families that go back hundreds of years to plantation times long since gone, and given the dearth of potential suitors are hard pressed to turn down a real offer just to keep these spectacular properties available to the public.

Just around the point and a bit up the Caribbean side there's a Princess Cruise Lines day destination as well. But it's sited in a location that frankly never held much interest and perhaps is its best use. At least they had the good grace not to take private such an amazing piece of the planet as Lighthouse Point...

Cheers!
 
Schlenkerla said:
That sounds as bad as Larry Ellison (Oracle's Founder) buying an entire Hawaiian island for himself.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/14/see...and-larry-ellison-bought-for-300-million.html
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No the cruise ships are worse, they unleash thousands of clueless fat white pasty people who trash everything in sight...like walking on reefs and damaging them because they are cluesless. The cruise ship lines also put big demands on local infrastructure, squeeze local operators to minimal prices, and keep the money extracted from guests for themselves...very little actually makes into the local economy...this is why cruise ship lines create these private venues, so they can keep it all for themselves. Cluesless cruise guests actually think they have been to a country, but in fact have never left the artificial confines of the cruise ship and their private venues.

There, I feel better. Having lived in Belize for many years, where cruise ships invaded and trashed several places, Im not a big fan.

By contrast, Ellison is just one a'hole (not because he has big $s, but because he is in fact an a'hole). He will likely preserve the island for his own private use and not trash it in the process...as is the case with many privately owned islands.
 
day_trippr said:
The whole cruise company buying day destination thing has become a puzzling problem for the Bahamas.

On the one hand, the Bahamas economy outside of Nassau and Grand Bahamas is checkered at best. Eleuthera, Cat Island, Exuma, Long Island - outside of tourism there isn't much going on, given the very small populations on these islands the native economies aren't enough to keep youngsters from leaving.

On the other hand, the cruise lines have been clearly exploitive in their deals, and historically their promises of employing natives has been close to a complete lie. The companies bring in most of the construction workers and equipment. Later - as these are day destinations - when the cruise ship pulls up most of the on shore tasks are handled by ship crew. So there's hardly any chance of long term employment for islanders.

About the only people that make out are the original land holders, usually families that go back hundreds of years to plantation times long since gone, and given the dearth of potential suitors are hard pressed to turn down a real offer just to keep these spectacular properties available to the public.

Just around the point and a bit up the Caribbean side there's a Princess Cruise Lines day destination as well. But it's sited in a location that frankly never held much interest and perhaps is its best use. At least they had the good grace not to take private such an amazing piece of the planet as Lighthouse Point...

Cheers!
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This is how they operate everywhere. They pay off a few local politicians and do as they please. They make almost zero contribution to the local economy.
 
Robert65 said:
How long does it take to actually unload once your turn comes?
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Usually about 5 minutes. The grain runs out of the truck by gravity. The trailer has two hoppers. When you pull on the scale you stop with the rear hopper over the grate through which the grain flows out of the trailer into the pit below the scale. The truck is weighed and the gross weight is recorded. Then, the trap at the bottom of the hopper is opened (22 turns of the crank, lock to lock). When that hopper is empty, you back up until the front hopper is over the grate. When that hopper is empty you pull forward again to the position you started from so the truck can be weighed again and the empty weight recorded. The scale operator flashes a green light when the weight has been entered into the computer and you drive forward, out the door, and park in the street long enough to run inside and pick up the scale ticket, hot out of the printer.

That’s at one particular elevator. Each company designs their facilities differently. At some of the elevators we deliver to it’s possible to dump both hoppers at once. Some have two scales, one on either side of the pit, to eliminate the need to back up. Some have really slow conveyors and you sit there for ten minutes, or so, while the grain trickles out of the traps.

We have two semis and my son and I spend more time loading, driving, waiting in line, and driving some more to get our produce delivered than we do actually doing the field work required to grow the crop.
 
LoneTreeFarms said:
Damn! Longest I’ve waited to dump is 15 minutes.
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In this part of the world we grow both winter and spring wheat. Those have to be stored separately. Today, the elevator was taking both, so there was additional time spent waiting if the guy in front of you had spring wheat and you had winter. Additionally, both classes of wheat are segregated by protein content, so if one guy has high pro and you have low, it means waiting for everything to empty out, change bins, and do it again for the next truck. This particular elevator is notorious for slow unloading. But, it’s many miles to the next closest option, and the price differential is usually not enough to justify the cost of the extra distance (140 mile round trip vs 55 miles).
 
Robert65 said:
Well anyway, as an avid baker (and eater, for that matter,) I thank you guys for doing the important work. If you're growing hard red winter wheat, maybe a bit of yours is in my loaf.
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Which one would that be? The one you're baking or the one you're pinching. LoL
 

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