Raleigh Area Group Grain Buy-Round 4
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Ok. That's what I thought. Just wanted to make sure.
So, the price per bag keeps getting better (b/c of the flat pallet rate) as more bags are added to the order until we get to 42 bags. If we go over 42, then the price per bag will go back up because a second pallet becomes involved and we pay another pallet and fuel charge.
Keep that in mind. We do not NEED to get to 42 bags to place an order, but each bag is better priced the closer we get to 42.
Exactly, except the fuel surcharge is per shipment, not per pallet. It's only charged one time, regardless. It's also charged on their bulk shipments....the ones in grain trucks with augers.
I might be talked into a second sack if someone wants to suggest another common base grain. Currently I'm getting 1 cm 2 row.
This will definitely make my storage issue double. I can probably get away with storing 1 of them in my home office, but not both. Can I store this in my shed until it starts getting warmer outside?
This will definitely make my storage issue double. I can probably get away with storing 1 of them in my home office, but not both. Can I store this in my shed until it starts getting warmer outside?
I like using Pilsner as a base malt, even for pale ales. It really lets the hops shine through.
ezzieyguywuf
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So a half-sack should be good for 2-3 batches? or more?
You are a f*cking humanitarian, that's what you are
PM incoming. I missed the last group buy. I'm not going to miss this one.
ezzieyguywuf
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half-sack is what, 27.5 pounds? You saying a grain bill could potentially call for >12 lbs of base grain for a 5 gallon batch? Sounds a little high to me, then again I only got one brew under my belt. Also, I assume it'd be up to us, the end-customer, to do the actual splitting of the sacks?
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yes. 27.5# (half sack) will probably get you 3 batches. That allows 9# of base grain per batch, and you'd be using some specialty stuff in addition to the base malt.
It's hard to beat the price on the bulk buy.
5th Season and American brewmaster charge $1.50/lb for domestic 2-row domestic with no shipping.
Compare that to the Canadian 2-row from Country Malt. Even with just the half pallet we have now, a sack of that stuff is only coming in at $38 after shipping. That's only $0.72/pound.
Actually, it's about $1/pound if you buy a full sack from American Brewmaster, but still... the price is much better from Country Malt on the bulk buy.
You could buy a full sack, throw half of it away, and still come out better than buying locally.
skeeordye11
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I just went back and looked at the round 3 thread and because the order now comes from Hickory, instead of NY, the freight charge is $65 + 20% instead of $165.
Reel, please confirm this is correct. Save a few more $ potentially.
ezzieyguywuf
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I think that this will help me convince the swmbo to lemme split a sack with someone. Any idea when this would be in though? I'm expecting to do my next brew either the last week of Feb or first week of March, on a saturday.
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Yeah, I forgot about that. WIll let Reel confirm.
If you want to pick one, I'll split it with you, as long as it's not 2 row.
Its up to whomever you are splitting it with when/how you will split it. I have done 10-12 lbs base grain in a number of my brews, they were higher gravity and I was not being stingy with leftover wort, i.e. leaving .75 gallons left in the kettle after boil. If you are concerned about parceling out your grain to get maximum batches from a half sack then you could do 3 batches easily. Or you could do milds/blondes at 6 lbs base and get four batches. Or berliner weiss and get 5 batches, or half batches and get 8 batches. It all depends on what you are going to brew and how you are brewing it.
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It all depends on how fast the order builds and when/if those involved decide that "this is good enough".
If Ryan's post about the pallet charge being $65 is correct, then a full sack of that Canadian 2-row falls to under $32.
What are you looking to split? I'm going to order at least one sack of base malt & would be open to splitting another. I'll probably go with pilsner/lager for the full sack and would be happy to split a sack of domestic 2-row or even something like Marris Otter, Halcyon, Optic, et al.
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I fixed the pallet rate and updated the spreadsheet.
ezzieyguywuf
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Well, I still need to run it by the swmbo, but I would want something I could use at least in an amber ale, as that will be my next brew, and then I dunno what I will be brewing after that. My last brew used Marris Otter (which was also my first brew) so it holds a special place in my heart, but if its ridiculously more expensive than the domestic 2-row I'll probably just head the domestic route then.
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You can get a sack of Maris Otter for about $42. That's $10 more than canadian two-row, but is still a HELL of of a good deal.
skeeordye11
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For example. A sack of Marris Otter is around $72 retail, so you're saving around $30/bag.
Domestic 2-row is aorund $50-52, so there you're saving around $20/bag.
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I was thinking about some C60, but was hoping for more than a 3-way split. I don't really need 18# of it.
I was thinking about some C60, but was hoping for more than a 3-way split. I don't really need 18# of it.
Yeah, that might be a little much. I still have some C15 from the very 1st buy!
3 or 4 way split would be fine.
I'm in for splitting C60 3 or 4 ways.
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Nobody's getting hops from them? Their prices are kick-a$$!
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If you read the thread you will see we cannot order hops due to spot pricing and hassles of shipping.
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skeeordye11
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I could get down for a 1/4 or less share of some 60.
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Ok. That's 4 of us. I'll add the C60 to the spreadsheet. The only one offered is the canadian, unless I missed something, so I'll use that.
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too bad, m*therf*cker. You are too late.
skeeordye11
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10# is fine with me if we wanted to go 5-way.
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I'm in.
I'm in. I was tempted to say no just to spite Barc but then I realized this is HBT and not GRABASS
With 10Lbs of crystal 60...can you say Celebration Ale Clone!!!
-Scott
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reel/barc... we're get the sweet end of this. foltster and skee are bad at math. 55/5 = 11, but they only want 10.
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