djfriesen said:Because he doesn't care for them.
Actually, he explicitly said they're too similar to BMC.
djfriesen said:Because he doesn't care for them.
No, he didn't. He said, "The idea is to give him a wide range of beer that I like, not necessarily the next step after BMC" and he got called a beer ****** for it.Actually, he explicitly said they're too similar to BMC.
Actually, he explicitly said they're too similar to BMC.
Honestly, can any of you remember your first IPA or pale ale? I can... I couldn't finish it because it was too bitter. I can't imagine many people can appreciate something of that nature after drinking BMC products. Most people need to be carefully and delicately brought into beer with more flavor or they will turn their back on it in a hurry.
Loved IPA at the first taste, but then my friends and I were drinking a lot of Brigeport's Blue Heron (pale ale) in high school back in the early 90's. Best friend's older brother (the beer provider) didn't want us drinking **** beer. Hooray for beer snobs.Honestly, can any of you remember your first IPA or pale ale? I can... I couldn't finish it because it was too bitter. I can't imagine many people can appreciate something of that nature after drinking BMC products. Most people need to be carefully and delicately brought into beer with more flavor or they will turn their back on it in a hurry.
If you're looking for a good oatmeal stout The Poet from New Holland is very good.
For the stout, why not something from an American craft brewery? Rogue Shakespeare Stout...
There's way too much attitude in this thread.
IMO you've left out the beer that's changed so many people to aopreciate bigger beers. I know you said no 22oz but arrogant bastard is amazing and like a gateway drug lol.
Honestly, can any of you remember your first IPA or pale ale?
The OPs selection for an IPA was Bell's Two Hearted. That is not an over-the-top IPA like DFH 90 or 120 or Stone's Ruination...
IffyG said:Honestly, can any of you remember your first IPA or pale ale? I can... I couldn't finish it because it was too bitter. I can't imagine many people can appreciate something of that nature after drinking BMC products. Most people need to be carefully and delicately brought into beer with more flavor or they will turn their back on it in a hurry.
Sorry, your information is not correct.
Paulaner Salvator Doppel Bock (still brewed as an ale since 1569)
I remember my first IPAIffyG said:Honestly, can any of you remember your first IPA or pale ale? I can... I couldn't finish it because it was too bitter. I can't imagine many people can appreciate something of that nature after drinking BMC products. Most people need to be carefully and delicately brought into beer with more flavor or they will turn their back on it in a hurry.
Sorry, your information is not correct.
The Salvator double bock is a bottom-fermented beer= Lager
I remember my first IPA
Recently I tasted a few, still not my style.
Cheers,
ClaudiusB
Sorry,you're def wrong. Read the label,it says "ale".
Salvator is a lager, now I know why you forgotI've drunk a lot of it.
The brewers in dose days did not know the difference between ale and lager yeast.Idk,maybe they just made it ahead of time & put it in cold storage so it wouldn't degrade as fast till Lent???
Are you still looking for suggestions,or are you exhausted from frustration?
Three floydes mild ale,or gumballhead.
I'd like to put together a 12'er of beer with 2 of each beer of the following styles for my buddy at work. And I need one more style. The idea is to give him a wide range of beer that I like, not necessarily the next step after BMC. That's why wheats, ambers, blonds, Belgiums, etc. are out.
Pale (Sierra Nevada)
IPA (Bell's Two Hearted)
Brown (Big Sky Moose Drool)
Porter (Great Lakes Edmund Fitzgerald)
Stout (Guinness Foreign Extra ???)
???
Here are the rules:
-Should be "craft" beer but something I have around here.
-I'd like to have each style made by a different brewery.
-Each beer should be a good example of the style and not have something like blueberries or ginger in it.
-I have to like it.
-It has to come in a 12 oz bottle or can.
I'm having a tough time with the last category. For the last category, I was thinking Red but all I could come up with is Founders Red's Rye (which is awesome but half the brews would be pretty hoppy). Any ideas for a maltier red beer or a different category all together?
As for the stout, it seems like a cop-out to use Guinness (but the FES is really good). I love Sierra Nevada Stout and Great Lakes Black Out Stout, but I've used both of those breweries. Hmmm...
What would your list look like?
Thanks!
Sorry,you're def wrong. Read the label,it says "ale". Seems to me I read about that on the germenbeerinstitute.com as well. I've drunk a lot of it. Most doppel bocks are lagers now,except for the original,the Salvator.
**PS-well,this weird. I know I've seen the word "ale" on the label. But the story at germanbeerinstitute.com refers to it being "lagered" in their cellars after a commercial guy bought it outright after Napolean shut the monks down. Darn it,now I have to go out & buy some. I never saved any of the labels from all those bottles of Salvator we drank. Idk,maybe they just made it ahead of time & put it in cold storage so it wouldn't degrade as fast till Lent???
unionrdr said:Dang,I was sure I always saw ale on the label somewhere. I'll have to wait till I can get aride to the store & look again. Or maybe I'm just a littlr dislectic?...
No,I'm in Ohio. I haven't had a salvator in a while,& was positive I remembered that right. It's got nothing to do with stupidity,I just haven't had it in a while,didn't save any of the labels,& can't get around much. I need my car back...
Dang,I was sure I always saw ale on the label somewhere.
Dang,I was sure I always saw ale on the label somewhere. I'll have to wait till I can get aride to the store & look again. Or maybe I'm just a littlr dislectic?...
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