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Hmmmmmmmm; if he steeped the grains does that make him a.....
nevermind
nevermind
You give away your hand (or lack thereof) with those posts...
r8rphan said:Back at cha... (Perspective matters...)
For the Super Bowl party, "90 to 100" 12-ounce bottles of the Honey Ale were served, Stephens said. There were no leftovers.
No Mr. Beer kit here. That's gotta be at least a 10 gallon batch.
Actually your post is amusing. At the risk of having this moved to the debate forum, I'll reply to your claim of "lack of hand". Feel free to start a thread in the debate forum to dispute any of these points by Barry, The Socialist.I find it amusing because it's really easy to pick out people who don't know politics from a hole on the ground. They are generally the ones who call him communist/Marxist/ socialist. You give away your hand (or lack thereof) with those posts...
r8rphan said:Question:
Obama credits a man named "Frank" in his book as the man who most shaped his ideology...
Who is this "Frank?"
EdWort said:Actually your post is amusing. At the risk of having this moved to the debate forum, I'll reply to your claim of "lack of hand". Feel free to start a thread in the debate forum to dispute any of these points by Barry, The Socialist.
Barry was raised by socialists and is surrounded by socialist friends and colleagues. You are with who you associate...
Jim Wallis, Obama’s spiritual advisor & forced redistribution of wealth advocate
Van Jones, disgraced Green Jobs Czar & Communist & 9/11 Truther
Ron Bloom, Manufacturing Czar & anti-free market
John Holdren, pro-redistribution of wealth
Andy Stern, SEIU President & redistribution of wealth fan & #1 visitor to the White House in ’09 and 10
Anita Dunn, fan of Chairman Mao
Mark Lloyd, FCC ‘Diversity Czar’ & Hugo Chavez fan
Carol Browner, socialist
Robert Creamer, socialist
Donald Berwick, "Excellent healthcare is by definition re-distributional. "
Barry's parents, both socialists and communist sympathizers.
Barry's grandparents introduced Barack Obama Jr. to poet and communist Frank Marshall Davis who became his mentor.
Barry admittedly sought out ‘Marxist’ professors
Barry admittedly attended ‘socialist conferences
Barry attended a Marxist church for 20 years– led by pastor Jeremiah Wright
Barry's administration proposed to nationalize the New England fishing industry. Under this plan, private fishermen would be put out of work, replaced by a smaller number of government-employed fishermen.
But Barry says he is not a socialist.
The SEC has just made a major rule change this week making it easier for unions to take control of corporations' boards of directors.
But Barry says he is not a socialist.
When GM and Chrysler were in critical financial straits, the Obama administration intervened. Instead of letting them take the traditional approach to such problems -- bankruptcy -- the Obama administration took them over, preserving the crippling union contracts, putting their own chosen people in charge, and shaping future offerings not on consumer demand, but their political agenda.
But Barry says he is not a socialist.
Under ObamaCare, the government will be taking over one-sixth of the United States economy. It will demand that American citizens obtain health insurance or face legal sanctions, and will eventually set itself up as a "competitor" to private insurance companies. It will be dictating how much doctors can charge for their services, even if (as with current Medicare rates) they do so at a loss. (the law has now been voided as unconstitutional)
But Barry says he is not a socialist.
When asked about his tax plans by "Joe The Plumber," Obama stated that he believes that some people make too much money, and things are "better" and "fairer" if some benevolent power were to intervene, take some of that "too rich" person's money, and redistribute it more "fairly."
But Barack Obama says he is not a socialist.
Barry has established a "CEO pay czar" whose job is to look at the pay rates of the heads of corporations and decide if they're being paid too much.
But Barry says he is not a socialist.
Barry has nationalized the student loan business, making all student loans now the exclusive providence of the federal government.
But Barry says he is not a socialist.
As of the first quarter of this year (the most recent numbers I could find quickly), 96.5% of all new home loans were backed by the federal government.
But Barry says he is not a socialist.
I have no agenda here, I just thought that was funny.Actually your post is amusing. At the risk of having this moved to the debate forum...
[insert long ass rant here]
The recipe for "White House Honey Ale" has not been released
Pilgarlic said:I now very, very much appreciate the Mods moving political talk to the Debate Forum. It disturbs me to be reminded how many among us get their facts, news and world views from talk radio. I'll be more careful about which threads I open, that's all.
The title had 'Obama' in it. I wanted to know about the beer, but I expected lots of childish and volatile posts. As a whole, I thought the thread was pretty civil and on-topic considering.I now very, very much appreciate the Mods moving political talk to the Debate Forum. It disturbs me to be reminded how many among us get their facts, news and world views from talk radio. I'll be more careful about which threads I open, that's all.
corbomite said:I have no agenda here, I just thought that was funny.
Frank Davis, however, this hardly makes him communist if this is your point. Trying to use a figure a person has claimed to admire as evidence of his/her policies over said persons voting record and actions makes one fall into the Glenn Beck school of conspiracy theories. Let's base our opinions on "real" evidence.
Coming soon...to a fridge near you.
Quack.
r8rphan said:Not correct, Obama credits this man as the person who most influenced his ideology.. Upon his death, Obama sought out and found a new mentor, one who was 'identical' in his ideology as Frank Marshall Davis.. The reverend White.. but of course in the twenty years sitting in the pews, he had no idea of this ideology (even though it was identical to his formative years mentor).. You do know what a 'mentor' is, and the influence such a person has on a young mind, right?
The fact that he sought out a carbon copy to be his spritiual advisor/mentor is 'telling'...
For the record, I first heard about the Frank Marshall Davis thing (in the business news daily) when Obama was running for senator in Illinois against a man I respect as a 'true' intellectual... long before I heard of Glenn Beck...
Paging Glenn Beck...paging Glenn Beck...
Look man, we don't have to agree on politics and heaven knows we obviously don't. You know what I'm sure of? We probably both love beer, so let's tip one back and agree to disagree...Cheers my friend.
Coming soon...to a fridge near you.
Never talk politics and religion at dinner or a date.
Are you in a round about way, trying to ask one of us out to dinner?
Never talk politics and religion at dinner or a date.
Ben Franklin?
r8rphan said:Why is it that you guys, when engaged in these 'discussions' always need a straw man to attack as if that is somehow an argument that has merit?
That's fine.. but you brought up the whole socialist/communist thing... and also the discrediting of anyone holding to that opinion of the man, before anyone even did so or alluded to it in any way, at least in todays discussion.. no one else but you.. (I did not go back through all the previous pages)......
and 'that' original statement was also a straw man argument in it's own right... and then you attempted to silence disagreement by elevating yourself to some sort of 'expert' on the subject.. as if that is supposed to impress us plain ole ignorant yokels...
None the less... yeah
Cheers to beers!
This is very cool. As a beekeeper myself, I hope to brew this beer when the honey flows in a few months. Maybe he'll also get a mead done this season and have it aged for the big party in early Nov 2012.
FYI, the first make work pay tax refund of $1000 helped me move to a kegging system. I just realized the second Obama tax break has increased our monthly income by $100, which will certainly help the brewing hobby this year. Anybody else use all these Obama tax cuts for brewing purposes?
i almost beleive this,even if its true he still SUCKS as president(may be worse than carter
When did they start calling them the "Obama Tax cuts?" LOL.. He fights the extension of the Bush tax rates tooth and nail, and then when beotch slapped in the mid term election and forced to extend them, suddenly they're the "Obama Tax cuts?" How do they get away with this all the time?...
Is there 'anything' that the left doesn't own?
Bush's tax policy didn't include the 2% reduction in employee paid FICA taxes...
I still want the administration's transparency promise to come through and hope they post the recipe!
If I was RICH (not just president) I would devise recipes all day and have my lackeys brew it.
If I was RICH (not just president) I would devise recipes all day and have my lackeys brew it.
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