neutral bittering hops

[Hoochin'Fool]

I usually go with Magnum, but my usual spots only have 8% AA Magnum pellets in stock, which makes me think I should branch out a bit more and try something new.
Looking for bittering strong, dark, malty stouts without much flavoring contribution (60 minute boil probably makes that mostly irrelevant). Would I regret just grabbing the highest AA% hop they've got?

 

[DonT]

Try Warrior

 

[Hoochin'Fool]

I was just about to edit my reply with a "fer-instance, what about Warrior"!

Try Warrior

One flavor I really dislike is pine, will any of that carry over if boiled for 60 minutes?

 

[DonT]

I was just about to edit my reply with a "fer-instance, what about Warrior"!



One flavor I really dislike is pine, will any of that carry over if boiled for 60 minutes?

Probably not... I never experienced it.

 

[Malticulous]

I'd say warrior has a little more ferm bitterness than magnum. I tend to use magnum in lagers and warrior in ales. It is nothing like chinook.

 

[day_trippr]

Columbus, Chinook, and Magnum are my usuals, but sometimes I use Galena, Apollo, or Nugget...

Cheers!

 

[DuncB]

Summit Junga is right in the middle of the flavour wheel and High AA.

 

[BrewnWKopperKat]

Looking for bittering strong, dark, malty stouts without much flavoring contribution (60 minute boil probably makes that mostly irrelevant). Would I regret just grabbing the highest AA% hop they've got?

One flavor I really dislike is pine, will any of that carry over if boiled for 60 minutes?

A couple of years ago, when I brewed some bigger dark beers for friends and family, I found that some of the "peeps" were sensitive to "pine-y" bitterness that comes from Magnum / Warrior. Golding (noble-ish, lower AA) as a bittering hop worked out better for them. Summit (mentioned by @DuncB (above)) is a hop that I not used. (eta: nor is Junga (see below))

 

[DuncB]

apologies I meant Junga

I have edited my error above as well.

 

[AlexKay]

Off-the-wall suggestion: Helios, which has a stratospheric AA level, and low CoH, if you think that even matters. It smells awful in pellet form, but even used in the whirlpool it tastes more noble than anything else. And of course not much of the aroma makes it through a full boil. I’ve used it dual-purpose in a single beer so far, but I like the result and will probably use it again.

 

[DuncB]

Interesting the Helios on the comparison wheel " identical " to the junga.

but mention of pine and resin which might not suit the op.

 

[Hoochin'Fool]

Thanks everyone who replied, at least now I've got a couple of other choices to consider, but I am definitely leaning towards Columbus (aka CTZ) after looking at Hop Comparison Tool & Chart - Beer Maverick

 

[Malticulous]

I'm drinking a dry stout bittered with cluster and finished with a touch a willamette. WLP001 dry. 18 days from brew and it's delicious. I have two more kags of it with US05 and Cali. I hope they are as good.

I used El Dorado on my last two dry stouts. I try to always have a stout on tap.

 

[lumpher]

Not many hops are neutral, especially stronger hops. Columbus isn't neutral. When I want neutral, I look at Perle and Northern Brewer.

 

[DBhomebrew]

Don't be afraid of lots of lower AA hops, the British aren't. I like Cluster or Challenger for a middle ground on AA. Northern Brewer is absolutely delicious, especially when a little mint comes through. I had a batch of dry Irish stout with NB that was excellent.

 

[Jeroen79]

Not much flavor survives after a 60min boil, that is why we add more hops later in the boil, so id doesn't really matter which one u use.

 

[Red over White]

Consider blending bittering hops, Magnum, Warrior, CTZ, etc... my favorite FWH is Magnum and Tradition or Magnum and Sterling. Eventually you will strike on the flavors that you find pleasing, but only through trial and error.

 

[DuncB]

Bitterness is one of the taste senses so I think it must survive a 60 minute boil!
Lots of beers only have hops at sixty minutes or earlier in the boil the hops still flavour those beers.

 

[RichK]

I'd go Admiral, but can you get it over there? (easy here in England).

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Challenger is an excellent bittering hop for English beers.

 

[Miraculix]

I'd go Admiral, but can you get it over there? (easy here in England).

I 2nd that! Excellent dual purpose hop.

Otherwise CTZ.

 

[Jonas217]

I've used Galena a lot and it is one of the more neutral bittering hops.