Zymurgrafi
Well-Known Member
Okay then. I have given up the hope that it was merely green. On to learning what may have gone awry...
My first AG a best bitter (recipe to follow) is off. It has been a little over 7 weeks in the bottle and it does not taste nice. I have looked over all the "off-flavor" charts I can find and I can not really pin point it. I would describe it as: gassy, smokey? a bit sulfery perhaps (like a match that has been lit and then extinguished quickly) and perhaps remaniscent of the odor of Iodopher (which yes I do use). Other symptom it has a tell-tale ring inside the neck of the bottle (infection probable).
Okay, here is the recipe and then I will list places I could have occured this flavor, I need you folks to help me identify it and hopefully avoid in the future. Note that I have made this several times before and it was very nice as an extract w/ specialty recipe. This was my modify to AG
2.13 lbs. of British Two-Row
5 lbs. of British Crisp Maris Otter
.75 lbs. of British Crystal 50-60L
.13 lbs. of British Chocolate
.06 lbs. of Flaked Barley (this is different than the extract recipe of course)
Hops
.75 oz. (21.3g) of Challenger (7.5%) boiled for 60
.5 oz. (14.2g) of East Kent Goldings (5%) boiled for 30
.25 oz. (7.1g) of East Kent Goldings (5%) boiled for 15
.25 oz. (7.1g) of Fuggles (4%) boiled for 15
.25 oz. (7.1g) of Fuggles (4%) boiled for 0
Safale S-04 - Whitbread Ale yeast
Add 3.02 gallons of water at 171 F to raise mash to 155 F. Sparge with 4.52 gals. water to yield 5 gals. after boil & chill. Total mash volume with grains is 3.65 gallons.6.53 gallons in boiling pot prior to boil with 1.031 gravity. 7.54 gals. of water with a 60 min. boil.
Now, places I think could have been problamatic highlights in red for those wanting a quicker read:
I was impatient to go AG and did not have a large enough pot or burner. I boiled in two pots on my propane gas stove. i have one burner that is capable of getting a fair rolling boil going but not the others. One pot was a fairly good boil the other not so hot, so I had the lid on partially to help. Even with the pot that was boiling "well" (now that I have seen a propane burner boil I know I have never really had a good strong boil) I never had any hot break. Never even came close to boiling over or even foaming.
Had suction problems siphoning to the carboy. Lot's of stopping and starting. Cannot remember exactly, all my notes say is that there were problems. I cooled the 2 pots in 2 ice baths reasonably quickly (30 minutes i think?)
I dropped my thermometer into the carboy and had to dump the wort into a sanitzed bucket to retrieve it then transfered back.
I transfered to a clean sanitzed carboy after 10 days and then bottled about 16 days later. It tasted good when first racking and I think it tasted a little off at bottling but not too bad. It was REALLY off 2 weeks in the bottle and still pretty bad (very slight improvement) at 7 weeks. It has the same taste up front and in the end (and it comes back in the belch) in the middle it tastes like, well, nothing???
On a positive note, after having one of these I tried my scottish 80/- (my 3rd AG, yeah only a week in the bottle, I did it for science!) and the verdict... WONDERFUL!!!
Malty sweet, a bit smoky, (in a good way), perfect!!! Cannot wait to try one again in a few more weeks!!!
Thanks for the assistance!
My first AG a best bitter (recipe to follow) is off. It has been a little over 7 weeks in the bottle and it does not taste nice. I have looked over all the "off-flavor" charts I can find and I can not really pin point it. I would describe it as: gassy, smokey? a bit sulfery perhaps (like a match that has been lit and then extinguished quickly) and perhaps remaniscent of the odor of Iodopher (which yes I do use). Other symptom it has a tell-tale ring inside the neck of the bottle (infection probable).
Okay, here is the recipe and then I will list places I could have occured this flavor, I need you folks to help me identify it and hopefully avoid in the future. Note that I have made this several times before and it was very nice as an extract w/ specialty recipe. This was my modify to AG
2.13 lbs. of British Two-Row
5 lbs. of British Crisp Maris Otter
.75 lbs. of British Crystal 50-60L
.13 lbs. of British Chocolate
.06 lbs. of Flaked Barley (this is different than the extract recipe of course)
Hops
.75 oz. (21.3g) of Challenger (7.5%) boiled for 60
.5 oz. (14.2g) of East Kent Goldings (5%) boiled for 30
.25 oz. (7.1g) of East Kent Goldings (5%) boiled for 15
.25 oz. (7.1g) of Fuggles (4%) boiled for 15
.25 oz. (7.1g) of Fuggles (4%) boiled for 0
Safale S-04 - Whitbread Ale yeast
Add 3.02 gallons of water at 171 F to raise mash to 155 F. Sparge with 4.52 gals. water to yield 5 gals. after boil & chill. Total mash volume with grains is 3.65 gallons.6.53 gallons in boiling pot prior to boil with 1.031 gravity. 7.54 gals. of water with a 60 min. boil.
Now, places I think could have been problamatic highlights in red for those wanting a quicker read:
I was impatient to go AG and did not have a large enough pot or burner. I boiled in two pots on my propane gas stove. i have one burner that is capable of getting a fair rolling boil going but not the others. One pot was a fairly good boil the other not so hot, so I had the lid on partially to help. Even with the pot that was boiling "well" (now that I have seen a propane burner boil I know I have never really had a good strong boil) I never had any hot break. Never even came close to boiling over or even foaming.
Had suction problems siphoning to the carboy. Lot's of stopping and starting. Cannot remember exactly, all my notes say is that there were problems. I cooled the 2 pots in 2 ice baths reasonably quickly (30 minutes i think?)
I dropped my thermometer into the carboy and had to dump the wort into a sanitzed bucket to retrieve it then transfered back.
I transfered to a clean sanitzed carboy after 10 days and then bottled about 16 days later. It tasted good when first racking and I think it tasted a little off at bottling but not too bad. It was REALLY off 2 weeks in the bottle and still pretty bad (very slight improvement) at 7 weeks. It has the same taste up front and in the end (and it comes back in the belch) in the middle it tastes like, well, nothing???
On a positive note, after having one of these I tried my scottish 80/- (my 3rd AG, yeah only a week in the bottle, I did it for science!) and the verdict... WONDERFUL!!!
Malty sweet, a bit smoky, (in a good way), perfect!!! Cannot wait to try one again in a few more weeks!!!
Thanks for the assistance!