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Yes, do experiments! All good!
Thanks, I'm from the 80s, so probably doesn't really fit.
I understand that. But go to cologne, give them one of the described orange beers to try and tell them that's an orange Kölsch. Most of them will most definitely tell you that this certainly is not a Kölsch and some of them might even go further and tell you that this is not a beer.
but I'm just poking fun at you folks that are taking things a little too seriously.
Now all that said I do read up on styles and try to brew using the right ingredients and a reasonable recipe. Maris Otter and British hops for a bitter, Pilsener and noble hops for a lager, etc. The guidelines reflect commercial beers being sold. So of course it pays to follow the guidelines.I understand that. But go to cologne, give them one of the described orange beers to try and tell them that's an orange Kölsch. Most of them will most definitely tell you that this certainly is not a Kölsch and some of them might even go further and tell you that this is not a beer.
So by all means do all the experiments and add whatever satisfies either your taste or your curiosity, but at least keep in mind that some specific things are very much narrowed down in terms of what it is and what it is not. We Germans love that, we need our boxes where we can organise our world with. And this is a German invention. There is no such thing as an orange kölsch, that's simply it
That made me giggleMy first thought is that if an "unsavory turd" exists, then what does a "savory turd" taste like?
My second thought is that now I have inspiration to start my Nano-Brewery/Bistro, which will be named Savory Turd Brewing.
All beers produced by Savory Turd Brewing will be brewed in the Kolsch style, but I'll add all kinds of fruit, cocoa nibs, spices and the like, just for fun to see if anyone says anything. With any luck, there will be a street protest by the group "ALL KOLCH MATTERS", I'll get tons of free publicity and I can sell the brewpub for big money and retire.
OK, my apology for going
But back to the OP's question, I think 3 oz of hops in a 5 gallon batch is a little heavy handed. I'd go lighter with the hops and add the McCormicks orange extract or an orange tincture to taste at packaging as suggested above. Let us know if you like it.
Fun thing is, there's probably nobody else on this forum who couldn't give less on guidelines than me. Especially if these guidelines are made up by somebody who had no connection to what he is actually writing about.
This BierMuncher is a heretic and must be stopped! Grab your tiki torches!
I like to add a pinch of Carafa III.
OK, thanks, now I know how you coined the phrase "unsavory turd". I'll be able to sleep better tonight.....
That's not how I read it, but all okay
Well to speak more generally, I find someone who categorizing others as twats in a blog post to be unsavory.
I brew a lot of Kölsch, sometimes with orange peel, sometimes with coriander and cardamom. IMO, if you use a light hand with the orange peel, the delicate flavors dance well together. I use 50/50 sweet and bitter orange peel, I also like the McCormick Seville orange peel, but my favorite is fresh zest from either navel oranges or those little cutie oranges.
