WLP 833, 2.8L stirplate starter, temps 71-73F. I usually get 2 inches of kreusen on all my starters. This one is bubbling, but not a lot of kreusen. I probably had 1/4 inch kreusen 3 hours in, but it went down. 18 hours later it looks like this. Smells decent and slight bubbles but very creamy, like I got some yeast. I’ll take a gravity reading of the spent starter wort after chilling. This is probaly the 6-7 generation of a pack I bought two years ago. I overbuild starters for the next starter (rather than harvest from fermenter) to minimize contamination issues. Time to buy another pack?