Local brewery allows employees to smoke while brewing...

[ericbw]

I know I said convo over, but it's too tempting to shut down.

@ericbw

Apparently you don't know the definition of immature. I'll educate you once again:

im·ma·ture: 1.not fully developed. 2. having or showing emotional or intellectual development appropriate to someone younger.

I'm saying you're philosophically and factually underdeveloped. I'm saying you don't even know what you believe. You don't understand the topic and I am done educating both of you.

@kombat

You are probably more emotionally manipulative than @ericbw!

This is how liberals argue. With emotion, not with fact. They pull some random scenario where the person is completely at my whim. Go to the person who's suffering and help them. Stop acting like it's now okay to steal from me because you feel bad and I should too.

I'm promoting an environment where people who make good decisions flourish and those who don't...well don't!
That's capitalism. Stop regressing. It's freedom to choose and that means choose wrongly. Simply because there's people who suffer doesn't mean you can steal from people.

Go to a charity, family, or a church. They won't be literally dying unless people let them. Are you aware that republicans/Christians statistically donate more than the opposing? You know why? because they voluntarily care, not by force. Stop forcing them to funnel their money into the hands of a government who doesn't know how to manage money (look at the debt). You're killing all legitimate conversation when you discuss politics like this. Talk about actual facts and policy, not attempting to make an example out of a minority to extrapolate you're emotions into socialistic dictatorship.

You're cold. You're the one who's pushing to en>force< (fees/guns/violence) on people how to spend their money when they are more efficient at it and are better at managing their own lives. I want my government to leave me alone!

What do you mean I don't know what I believe? You mean you can't understand different opinions.

Not being able to see things from other points of view (not agreeing, just understanding) is a sign of intellectual and emotional... immaturity. Sorry!

You say, "that's capitalism" like it should mean something. You say it like socialism and capitalism are incompatible. Maybe in their purest forms they are. But they also can work really well together. Use capital to produce something, make a profit, share some of the profit with the group. Reasonable capitalism and reasonable socialism could be the ideal.

But that would mean not discriminating. That would mean not looking at the world through a very narrow mindset. It might require maturity.

Also, socialism and dictatorships are not the same thing. You equate them but they're not.

And what does "republicans/Christians" mean? Republicans who are Christians? Republicans and Christians? Republicans or Christians? Because you should be aware that Republican and Christian are not the same thing. One is a political party.

"Actual facts?" Is there another kind?

You want your government to leave you alone. As you type on the internet, then drive on the road to the post office to pick up your social security check? That kind of "leave me alone?"

 

[passedpawn]

I could move it to the debate forum, but not worth it I don't think. Seems a hemisphere away from the original topic.