brobeman said:And without their distribution networks we would all be limited to local or regional selections.
With crafts taking more and more marketshare I am more concerned with th big brewers continuing to buy out and dumb down some of the better mid sized brewers. Although, so far so good with GOOSE in my opinion.
Brobe
Who are the big 3? Inbev, SAB and Sam Adams?
barrooze said:What really needs to be abolished is the 3 tier system.
Light lagers are a legitimate beer style. I understand that many people do not enjoy them, especially after being introduced to the world of hearty, flavorful ales, but that doesn't mean that light lagers are bad beers.
Heck, Bud brews 5 billion bottles per year, and every one tastes exactly the same. That level of consistency and repeatability is to be commended and admired, considering many homebrewers have a hard time with consistency from one 5 gallon batch to the next.
johnsma22 said:Light lagers are a legitimate beer style. I understand that many people do not enjoy them, especially after being introduced to the world of hearty, flavorful ales, but that doesn't mean that light lagers are bad beers.
Heck, Bud brews 5 billion bottles per year, and every one tastes exactly the same. That level of consistency and repeatability is to be commended and admired, considering many homebrewers have a hard time with consistency from one 5 gallon batch to the next.
A Budweiser to me has it's place just like an IPA. Nothing tastes better than a 32 deg Bud Draft in 95 deg heat at Busch Stadium as I'm watching the Cardinals on a Sunday afternoon.
Get rid of the big 3 and the largest of the craft brewers would fill the vacuum.
Miller and Coors are both owned by SAB. Inbev owns Bud. Sam Adams is the next biggest in the US as far as I know.
Its hard enough to find Simcoe now, lets not create any more shortages by expanding the craft beer scene 20-fold.
i know i've said this before- i've got nothing against anyone who makes beer and makes money making it- but we do really need to be rallying to put an end to subway. are you seriously going to ask me if i want every single thing in your little plastics buckets on my sandwich? i ordered a G-D italian- if you don't know what's on it then you have no business selling subs. why do i have to tell you how to make it? how about i just come over there and balance your books, and inspect the kitchen to make sure it's healthy and when you want to go home, i'll clean up, stack the chairs and lock the doors, because it seems like your manager is too busy with a c--k in his mouth to teach you how to put some freaking meat on some freaking bread?!!?
Good point, although just having the craft breweries pick it up in a big way that caused the shortage this year ought to be enough to bring a little more into production.Don't you think if the big 3 used Simcoe, the hop farms would be growing a crap-ton more of it than they currently do? Don't you think it'd be one of the most common hops to come by in that case?
i know i've said this before-
One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is the amount of money the big 3 spend on advertising/sponsoring sporting events. I like to watch sports on TV and enjoy a homebrew while I watch, but I bet without all the ad money from the big 3, a lot of sports we watch on TV might not be there.
i don't understand the money that they do spend on advertising.. i do love their commercials (even though they have nothing to do with their product) but does a funny commercial really make you choose that brand? i would think that if it was a new brand that people had never heard of maybe it would stick in the front of the consumer's mind, but EVERYBODY knows Bud, Miller, Coors.. a funny commercial isn't going to change which brand you drink..
i don't understand the money that they do spend on advertising.. i do love their commercials (even though they have nothing to do with their product) but does a funny commercial really make you choose that brand? i would think that if it was a new brand that people had never heard of maybe it would stick in the front of the consumer's mind, but EVERYBODY knows Bud, Miller, Coors.. a funny commercial isn't going to change which brand you drink..
It isn't going to change which brand YOU drink.
I'm thinking it isn't going to change what I drink.
But do you seriously think that Budweiser (or McDonalds, GM, anyone else) spends billions on advertising without the hard cold facts that prove that it works? The fact is, for the majority of people, yeah- it works just fine.
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