I was trying to learn how to make wine from fruit when I stumbled onto HBT. I read what I could about country wines and wine kits, then I started noticing all of the traffic on the beer side. I read and read for about 6 months, after realizing that I was only a beer kit away from a partial boils (I already had a 4 gallon pot I used for canning) I decided to give it a try. GOD was it awful. Six months later that first batch still tastes bad, but I have one from time to time, but my other beers are very good. I'm working with full boils now. I have a piece or two set aside for all grain, but my main concern is getting a fermentation chamber built (my future father-in-law has a mini-fridge that he's looking to get rid of, I just have to get it to travel about 500 miles). I still make a lot of wine, much more than I do beer at the moment, but I'm looking at expanding both, turning my basement into a cellar, and filling up the bottles that I have sitting around. The pipe line is starting to grow, I have two brews that are drinkable (plus the first batch, that just isn't), two that are bottle conditioning, one in secondary, a cider in primary, and two brews in the works. I'm really happy with how it's all working out. Thank you HBT!