Hop schedule help to show off 1 type of hops

[SFGiantsFan925]

Hey everyone,

I bought 10 ounces of Mosaic hops. They are i think 12.3AA. Its a sister to Simcoe, and I am looking for either an IPA or APA to really show off the hops and see what they are all about. This will probably be my second attempt at a BIAB/AG recipe. I am still in the learning phase, but have a pretty good understanding of how hops work and when to add them. I was going to use the 3 Floyds Zombie Dust recipe, since they use all Citra, but just use the Mosaic hops instead. Does this seem like a good idea?

The Zombie Dust recipe is a total of 8 ounces, using 3 for dry hopping for 10 days. I have been looking a the hop schedule and it seems good. Or do you think a SMaSH would be a better option to show off the flavors. Here is the ZD recipe for reference. I am open to any and all solid IPA/APA recipes. Thanks!

Zombie Dust:
11.75 lb 2 Row (2.0 SRM) Grain 81.7 %
1.13 lb Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 7.8 %
0.50 lb Carafoam (2.0 SRM) Grain 3.5 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 3.5 %
0.50 lb Melanoiden Malt (20.0 SRM) Grain 3.5 %
0.75 oz Citra [12.40%] (First Wort Hop) Hops 17.0 IBU***
1.25 oz Citra [12.40%] (15 min) Hops 21.1 IBU
1.25 oz Citra [12.40%] (10 min) Hops 15.4 IBU
1.25 oz Citra [12.40%] (5 min) Hops 8.5 IBU
1.25 oz Citra [12.40%] (1 min) Hops 1.8 IBU
3.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (Dry Hop 10 days) Hops -

 

[LeSinge]

I like to use a simple APA mash (or Tasty's APA), and split the batch into single-hop boils using Cascade as the 'control batch'. I use the same ounce amounts for 20 minute and later additions (including dry hops) and adjust the 60 minute bittering charge to the target IBUs.
Then two 2.5 gal side-by-side fermentations.
This way you can really get the feel for the new hop(s)

Truncated Sample:

Batch Size (fermenter): 2.5 gal
Boil Size: ~3 gal
Bottling Volume: ~2.5 gal
Estimated OG: 1.064 SG
Estimated Color: 8.6 SRM
Estimated IBU: ~67 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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9# Pale Malt
7.5# Pilsen
1# Caraamber
1# Caramel Malt - 40L
2# Munich 10L
4# DME, Extra Light Dry Extract


Amt Name IBU
1.50 oz Cascade [6.10 %] - Boil 60 min 48.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [6.10 %] - Boil 20 min 19.4 IBUs
0.25 oz 0 min
0.50 oz dryhop 3 days
3.75 oz ttl 67.4 IBUs


0.50 oz Nelson Sauvin [11.50 %] - Boil 60 min 30.2 IBUs
1.00 oz Nelson Sauvin [11.50 %] - Boil 20 min 36.6 IBUs
0.25 oz 0 min
0.50 oz dryhop 3 days
2.75 oz ttl 66.7 IBUs


0.25 oz Pacific Gem [15.10 %] - Boil 60 min 19.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Pacific Gem [15.10 %] - Boil 20 min 48.0 IBUs
0.25 oz 0 min
0.50 oz dryhop 3 days
2.50 oz ttl 67.8 IBUs


1.50 oz Pacifica [6.10 %] - Boil 60 min 48.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Pacifica [6.10 %] - Boil 20 min 19.4 IBUs
0.25 oz 0 min
0.50 oz dryhop 3 days
3.75 oz ttl 67.4

 

[bobbrews]

Looks decent enough. The only thing I would change (for personal prefrence) is to go with lower Lovibond crystal and nix the melanoidin completely. This will allow the hops to shine more if that is your goal.

 

[cm02WS6]

I've also got 10 oz and will be doing a SMASH with it soon.

Note that this is extract and a 2-1/2 gallon batch. My Mosaic is 2012 leaf and 12.3%. Using 5 oz in 2.5 gallons should give a good idea of what Mosaic is all about.

Mosaic Semi-SMASH 2.5 gal:
3.5 lbs Briess Pilsen DME and 0.25 lbs Dextrose (1.065 OG in 2.5 gal)
0.5 oz Mosaic @ 30 min
0.75 oz Mosaic @ 15 min
0.75 oz Mosaic @ 10 min
0.75 oz Mosaic @ 5 min
0.75 oz Mosaic @ 0 min
1.5 oz Mosaic dry hop
Nottingham yeast

 

[SFGiantsFan925]

Thanks LeSinge, but I really dont have the time or room to create that many batches. I am thinking a SMaSH is a little better, or try the Zombie Dust clone, without the melanoidin. I think I might leave the Crystal 60, as it is only .5lbs and will provide a nice malt balance. Still want to make a balanced beer. Not just a supper light, extra hoppy Pale. I think my LHBS (MoreBeer) only has crystal 10 and 60. Im thinking they would have to have something in between. Maybe a 40 or so??

 

[LeSinge]

I understand, I just copy/pasted one of my trials as an example...
If you can, do make two batches, using a known hop (like Cascade) for a 'control' to better understand the hop you're testing...the results are much more apparent that way.
Good Brewday!

 

[SFGiantsFan925]

Dont get me wrong, i totally appreciate the help.

I think I will do a control. Sounds like a good idea. I only makes sense really to have one so you can really tell the difference. Now to find the time to start brewing!

 

[SpacemanSpiff]

Your original looks good. For my Smash beers I've been doing FWH, 60, 20, 10, 0, dry hop. Amounts tailored to the IBUs you're looking for. They've all worked out well so far.

 

[cm02WS6]

Brewed my SMASH recipe above last night, so it will be about a month before it is ready. The hops smelled fantastic!