Hop Rod Rye Extract Recipe Attempt

[freyguy]

This weekend is brew weekend, and I already have mine picked out (Raison D'Etra Clone), but my brew buddy is looking for something. We've been drinking alot of Hop Rod Rye, so why not try for it....right?

I looked at the Humboldt Hop Rod in the database from Janx, and I'm just trying to convert it to an extract. Here's what I got so far:

8 lbs Extra Light Dry Extract (3.0 SRM)
1 lbs 4.0 oz Candi Sugar, Amber (75.0 SRM)
2 lbs 8.0 oz Rye, Flaked (2.0 SRM)
1 lbs 4.0 oz Munich Malt (9.0 SRM)
8.0 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM)
8.0 oz Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM)
8.0 oz Wheat, Flaked (1.6 SRM)
0.8 oz Black (Patent) Malt (500.0 SRM)
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [12.20%] (60 min) Hops 34.9 IBU
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [12.20%] (40 min) Hops 30.7 IBU
0.85 oz Centennial [7.00%] (30 min) Hops 13.1 IBU
0.40 oz Centennial [10.00%] (10 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep)
1.00 oz Amarillo [8.00%] (Dry Hop 14 days)
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00%] (Dry Hop 14 days)
1 Pkgs California Ale V (White Labs #WLP051)

This bring it up pretty close to the original numbers. They work out as 1.085 OG, 16.2 SRM, 78.7 IBU's. The thing I'm concerned about is that I think alot of those grains need to be mashed. If we need to mash, how long should we do so in what amount of water? We've only really done steeping grains in the past. Or is there another variation of this recipe built for us lazy extract/steepers out there?

Any input is appreciated!

 

[the_bird]

Flaked rye and Munich need to be mashed, not steeped, or you'll just get a little bit of flavor and a whole lotta unconverted starches. IIRC, flaked rye needs some 2-row or 6-row for conversion, it can't convert itself (Munich can, but nothing else in addition). Wheat malt and carapils need to be mashed, as well (not positive about the flaked wheat, although I *think* so).

 

[Brewing Clamper]

Sounds like a mini-mash! I've been having a lot of fun with those recently. Give it a shot in a 2gl cooler!

 

[Rhoobarb]

Instead of flaked rye, you could use rye malt. Take a look.