40 pages of thread so my apologies for not reading it all. Are people having more success with this than oxiclean? I saw this is for hard water but I'm just curious is the formula works better one softer water.
I like it better than PBW.
40 pages of thread so my apologies for not reading it all. Are people having more success with this than oxiclean? I saw this is for hard water but I'm just curious is the formula works better one softer water.
@TheTrevster
"I've updated the new recipe with all the ratios."
Where is the latest rendition, Please Sir?
The latest recipe is as follows:
all Oxi Laundry Booster, Free Clear: 2x 52 Ounce tubs
Red Devil 0265 TSP 90 Heavy Duty Cleaner: 1x 4-Pound bag
Seventh Generation, Free & Clear Auto Dish Powder: 45 ounces (of a 75 Ounce box)
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Don't forget that if you have a membership at Costco the big box of oxo free is $25 shipped. I think it's 14lbs.
Not any longer it seemsThey've replaced it with Oxi-Clean Versatile Max Efficiency.
All three of these are on Amazon... about $38 for around 13lbs of product. Not bad when PBW is ~$32 for 8lbs.
Fixed that for you
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Updated Recipe.
Thanks to all who tried out the new products!
all Oxi Laundry Booster, Free Clear, 52 Ounce This is available on Amazon for $7.99 each, but I can buy it locally for $5.99 each.
Red Devil 0265 TSP 90 Heavy Duty Cleaner, 4-Pounds
Seventh Generation, Free & Clear Auto Dish Powder 75 Ounces
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Unfortunately with shipping it ends up around $45 anyway![]()
If that's all you get, sure. I buy several of them though, and only when already buying other things. The difference in shipping is negligible (<$5), and when buying say 5 of them, that only increases it by about $0.25/lb.
I'd say save your money and omit 7th Generation.
Simply make your homemade PBW with 70% Oxiclean Free (or a generic) and 30% Sodium Metasilicate (TSP/90). Done!
I take it one step further. Not the absolute cheapest at $2.65/lb, but certainly easy:
Sodium Percarbonate powder on ebay, 10#, $24
TSP/90 4#, ~$13
14#, $37; $2.65/#
When I made this a few months ago, the Red Devil TSP was actual TSP. Looks like they changed it.
MSDS on Red Devil TSP/90 Heavy Duty
Sodium Percarbonate 50%
Sodium Carbonate 50%
Savorgran TSP-PF Phosphate Free
SODIUM SESQUICARBONATE 90% - 95%
SODIUM METASILICATE (or silicate, water glass) 0.1% - 5%
EDTA, TETRASODIUM 0.1% - 5%
Based on this information the percentages shown in the recipe are not accurate as none of these are 100% Sodium Metasilicate. In fact Savogran will add just a tiny bit, while the TSP/90 will just add more carbonate and percarbonate, so basically "Oxiclean".
I wonder what an actual bag of TSP/90 lists for ingredients. I'll find out soon enough as I need to buy some.
In 2013 I bought a 1 pound container of Lundmark TSP at Ace Hardware. It doesn't list ingredients but mentions Caution: Contains Sodium-Metasilicate. No other warnings. From using it, it's very strong and must be close to 100%.
I've been used that "TSP" for my homemade PBW at a 30% rate and Sun Oxiclean at 70%. A few months ago I mixed the last portion of the "TSP" into a new batch of PBW.
Time to go shopping again and check labels!
Now, I am seeing a white film on the outside of my beer bottles which comes off fairly easy with the application of acid (vinegar, star san etc)
Caveat:. I haven't done this recipe using the 7th Generation.... I've only used 70:30 oxi to tsp. Once that runs out, I'll switch to this recipe.
folks were saying TSP/90 is Sodium Percarbonate & Sodium Carbonate which I do not believe is correct (unless they've updated the product but not yet the MSDS or TDS).
MSDS TSP/90 Heavy Duty - Old
https://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands&id=18007021
New Resealable Bag
https://householdproducts.nlm.nih.g...d=18007059&query=Red+devil&searchas=TblBrands
So, I was referencing this before which is likely why I was off
https://www.menards.com/msds/101152...ggaMAA&usg=AFQjCNGJKGwDExFannVU7Sx0p5uDbpGCFQ
So to clarify what the TSP/90 (vs. regular TSP)
I didnt see this part clarified. I have actual TSP. Same ratio?
Thx
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